State employees also get full pay whilst on maternity/paternity leave.
State employees also get full pay whilst on maternity/paternity leave.
Is there a question here?About to be a first time father so just getting my head around the different schemes.
I'm quite shocked at the poor rate of maternity pay. At €262 it's not much more than Jobseekers Allowance at €220 and a long way from a livible wage. It's also unlikely a person on mat pay will qualify for any of the other benefits that someone on JSA may be entitled to.
My wife earns decent money in a professional job. However the company is very small as it's pretty much industry standard for maternity pay not to be topped up.
I will get my Paternity Leave topped up. But not Parents Leave. I certainly won't be able to afford to take any Parents Leave untill she goes back. I think it's also €262 a week. Even then it will be difficult. A case of trying to survive on one salary for up to a year.
I understand that Parents Leave is currently 7 weeks and may be extended. However I don't see anything about increasing the rate. From what I see only people who are lucky enough for it to be topped up take it.
Now it's probably a case of me being blind to problems that I don't face and I'm sure the situation is better than it was only a few years ago.
However it appears that the state is relying very heavily on large companies and multinationals to top up maternity and other leave.
I get the feeling that these companies play a bigger role in Ireland than say a European average.
Should the state not be providing a higher level of base mat, pat pay and perhaps taxing all businesses more to cover it?
I can understand who a small business of 4 or 5 can't afford to pay an extra person for 6 or more months. You need to hit a certain number of employees to be able to afford to top up leave I expect.
Is there a question here?
What about individuals/couples taking responsibility for their decision to have kids and planning/budgeting accordingly themselves?It's an open discussion especially on the last part. Is my observation correct that the state relying on large multi nationals which employ so many in Ireland?
What about individuals/couples taking responsibility for their decision to have kids and planning/budgeting accordingly themselves?
Well the current situation for many seems to be to find yourself a job at a large company or a state job. But thats much easier for some professions than others.
So we have outsourced a lot of social benefits to be employee benefits.
This is the approach we see in America regarding health insurance.
You could apply your approach to anything really. Why have unemployment benefits. Just budget accordingly for being out of work?
Personally i prefer the approach of paying in via tax and that money being redistributed when / if needed.
Well the current situation for many seems to be to find yourself a job at a large company or a state job. But thats much easier for some professions than others.
So we have outsourced a lot of social benefits to be employee benefits.
This is the approach we see in America regarding health insurance.
You could apply your approach to anything really. Why have unemployment benefits. Just budget accordingly for being out of work?
Personally i prefer the approach of paying in via tax and that money being redistributed when / if needed.
Why should the state pay full pay for maternity leave? Having kids is a lifestyle choice and the same as being ill or unemployed
If it is a priority for you make sure you are employed somewhere that offers it as a benefit - simple. Lower salaries in the public sector reflect the better non-pay benefits like mat leave. You can't have it both ways
What about individuals/couples taking responsibility for their decision to have kids and planning/budgeting accordingly themselves?
If the capacity for “planning/budgeting” was a consideration in the allocation of the states resources, I’m struggling to see the justification for literally any age related benefit?
Cheer up! Once Faketail junior has arrived safely, it and its parents will get loads of goodies from the State.
Loads and loads more goodies than my (single income) parents got, 66-odd years ago, when the stork delivered me.
And loads more goodies than Mrs Marsupial and I got, some 30 three decades ago, when our two sprogs emerged - separately - from the cabbage patch in the back garden!
As a female who is the higher earner in our family. We took a huge financial hit with Maternity Leave which employers didn’t top up.
Also, a lot of unwanted comments/judgement about my (our) decision for me to return to work before 26 weeks for the betterment our families financial health. But that’s another topic. The more shared leave becomes the standard the better.
Not sure about the details or if I agree with it but I believe in many other European countries your state welfare payments is calculated as a % of your previous years tax contributions (up to a limit) I.e the more in absolute you contributed in tax the more you get back when you need it.
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