oilpainting
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The problem is that a lot of people, fed up with their management agents' inadequacies, decide to withold the fee as a way of protesting. They don't seem to realise that the only people who suffer from this are the other members of the management company, whose paid up fees are now covering the shortfall. In other words they're paying the same amount for a reduced service while the people who pay nothing are still benefitting from bin collections, street lighting, landscaping etc. If people have a problem with the agents they should go to the AGM, voice their objections, propose changing management agencies, hound the agents with their complaints etc. But don't withold your fee, its not fair on the other residents.
I live in a house within a mixed development and the mngt fees were calculated by sqm and not related to the service. my fee is 895 euro while a 3 bed apartment is 700 euro.
This is why home owners are reluctant to pay the fees. they are advised to pay the initial fee to get the house by the solicitor otherwise the sale won't close. Then wait until the agm and fight to get it changed.
We had our agm and people came with all their personal gripes with the builders as they are still on the BOD.
As to details we have received no budget or how the fees are broken down, the mngt has block insurance that covers houses now. But this was not the case when we closed as the mngt co was not registered yet. The insurance policy was held in the builders name at the time. So all the houses took out insurance policies privately. At the agm the mngt co said they would send letters out so we could get a refund on the insurance - but will the insurance co give 1 yr refund or 2 or 3.
Things like this really upset the home owners, then the mngt co talk about value for money and send us emails we will respond - they don't!
If this whole management company / agent lark was made clear to house buyers we wouldn't need all these forums!
The saddest thing is if someone issued a document in black and white at the beginning clearly stating what you pay, why you pay and what services you can expect to get from paying mngt fees. Then everybody would be more accepting to paying for it.
Its like buying a ham sandwich over the counter or from the fridge... most people go over the counter because they know what they are buying.
I'm in the position now as to whether its worthwhile paying if no other house owners are going to pay.
hi i have recently moved into a new estate and joined the res. commitee,there is a lot of people living in the estate for 2 years now who have not paid their management fees,reason given that they live in houses and 500per yr is something they are not prepared to pay,although they would have signed their contracts at the beginning to pay thei fees....
we are now in a position where we cannot afford to pay contractors who are maintaining the estate because we are in debt,the outstanding management fees owed is quite large....we have a good residents commitee now set up and we are working well with our management company who has issued letter after letter to ask for the payments with no response they seemed to have banded together agaist paying the fee.... is there any suggestions of how we might handle this issue from anyone in a similar situation .... any advice much appreciated xx
i know but in these new developments because they are private we have to pay for the street lighting and the landscaping of a large park in our estate among other things... my issue is that the estate is up and running for 2 and a half years now and our services are being diminished because the fees are outstanding but the people who are not paying are getting their services paid for by the rest of us because the lighting and landscaping has not been cut... what would you propose to do?stop everyone from paying the fees and take on the management company allowing the estate to fall to pieces while we wait to get it resloved?....
the whole thing does seem quite complicated and i can see the point that if people lived in a house that they have to pay for extra costs-but private run estates have to pay for the maintainance of it,the people who have issue with it have a right to but after 2 and a half years i think they need to start dealing with it....
Also upon signing, no one was told the in and outs of dealing with the management company/ agent. upon signing they should have issued a booklet that says, problem y - go to agent, problem x - go to builder, problem z - go to council. Services by council, mngt co, agm will be on blah.... get the point.
People want to know where they stand and what they are getting for their money. We know that taxes won't cover refuse anymore, probably won't cover water in a few years, public lighting too... as the govt find better ways to spend the tax payers money.
Tell me I'm paying 900 euro, for a house, but tell me why... let me buy into the management co / agents vision for the estate.
Solicitors letters just aren't good enough.
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