makesense001
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Consent from all occupants is not required in order to enter a property. I always obtained consent from at least one tenant prior to entering.
Consent from all occupants is not required in order to enter a property. I always obtained consent from at least one tenant prior to entering.Agree there is no question asked.
OP.
From your post, it's clear you did not have the consent of all occupants nor do you seem to value the privacy tenancy rights of your long term tenant.
They are not legally classed as short term tenancies given they are all longer than two weeks.I suspect that this is a misreading of the limited information given by the OP.
Lots of places are let room-by-room with no difficulty.
The issue here is surely the landlord having residential inhabitant lessees sharing their home with short-term Airbnb-style licensees without their consent.
RTB have clearly disagreed & issued a fine.Consent from all occupants is not required in order to enter a property.
You literally saidThey are not legally classed as short term tenancies given they are all longer than two weeks.
Six weeks is clearly short-term in anyone's language.I instead decided to rent out the two rooms via Airbnb on legal lengths (so 14 days upwards). Most of them are about 6 weeks in length.
Only relevant definition is the official one.Six weeks is clearly short-term in anyone's language
Hello all,
I have a question I would love some input on.
Myself and my wife own a property through a limited company.
Its a four bed house with all tenants sharing the common areas (bathrooms, kitchen etc).
Two of the tenants moved out and I instead decided to rent out the two rooms via Airbnb on legal lengths (so 14 days upwards). Most of them are about 6 weeks in length. Mainly I decided to do this as the current tenants were a pain so I want to do it this way instead.
I provide weekly cleaning and I meet the cost of the electricity for the two rooms.
One of the original tenants complained to the RTB that I am not permitting her to have peace in the property as I do not give her notice when new tenants arrive or indeed when the cleaners arrive. I obtain permission to enter the property from the shorter term tenants.
RTB awarded the tenant €3k as they agreed with her. However I do obtain permission from the other shorter term tenants and that should be sufficient to enter the property.
That's a good question. Maybe @Paul001 would also answer that along with telling us what the original question wasI'm confused - is @Paul001 the same poster as @makesense001 ?
Im sorry for the confusion (I didn't notice) - yes same posterI'm confused - is @Paul001 the same poster as @makesense001 ?
Anyones language bar legal language.You literally said
Six weeks is clearly short-term in anyone's language.
Whats awful? Renting the rooms out on fixed term contracts of between 1- 8 months? Whats so awful about that?You are the reason landlords have such a bad name in Ireland. Absolutely awful situation for your long term tenants. More fines coming your way with any luck.
Long term tenants are trying to have a stable home.Whats awful? Renting the rooms out on fixed term contracts of between 1- 8 months? Whats so awful about that?
My question is has anyone come across instances where permission from one group of tenants are sufficient to allow access into the property.
The RTB have already given you the answer on this one. Allowing short term let tenants into accommodation does not in any way void the rights of long-term tenants already in situ.My question is has anyone come across instances where permission from one group of tenants are sufficient to allow access into the property.
1. NoMy question is has anyone come across instances where permission from one group of tenants are sufficient to allow access into the property.
It is important that any decisions are in line with current residential legislation. Ive appealed it anyways.1. No
2. RTB have clearly indicated otherwise, I don't see that you have any grounds here.
Leo - I imagine you may not have read this thread or alternatively do not understand the legislation. As I have already outlined - short term lets are defined as stays of less than 14 days. I have already indicated that the stays are in excess of such.The RTB have already given you the answer on this one. Allowing short term let tenants into accommodation does not in any way void the rights of long-term tenants already in situ.
I imagine you have misunderstood the legislation. The 14 day prohibition does not limit the interpretation of short term letting to just that of 14 days or less.Leo - I imagine you may not have read this thread or alternatively do not understand the legislation. As I have already outlined - short term lets are defined as stays of less than 14 days. I have already indicated that the stays are in excess of such.
None. You are offering them a house share, not a quasi hotel with strangers arriving on holidays etc. They are perfectly entitled to expect that the remainder of the house is let to long term tenants like themselves.Hello all,
I have a question I would love some input on.
Myself and my wife own a property through a limited company.
Its a four bed house with all tenants sharing the common areas (bathrooms, kitchen etc).
Two of the tenants moved out and I instead decided to rent out the two rooms via Airbnb on legal lengths (so 14 days upwards). Most of them are about 6 weeks in length. Mainly I decided to do this as the current tenants were a pain so I want to do it this way instead.
I provide weekly cleaning and I meet the cost of the electricity for the two rooms.
One of the original tenants complained to the RTB that I am not permitting her to have peace in the property as I do not give her notice when new tenants arrive or indeed when the cleaners arrive. I obtain permission to enter the property from the shorter term tenants.
RTB awarded the tenant €3k as they agreed with her. However I do obtain permission from the other shorter term tenants and that should be sufficient to enter the property.
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