We'll it was vaguely comparable before any train lines were built.
My point was simpler. At this point in time Kerry has existing infrastructure Donegal has none. No point comparing them now.
https://donegalrailway.com/railways-of-donegal/
It never was.
Donegal never had even a kilometre of mainline or standard gauge track at any time, even at the heigh of the expansion of the Irish rail system. Kerry, by contrast, had extensive standard gauge mainline tracks from the late nineteenth century.
We spend vastly more per capita in rural areas than in urban areas and that gap is only increasing. That's the way it should be but it's nonsense to say that services are being stripped from rural areas. We've closed down small, inefficient and dangerous rural hospitals, with a resulting improvement in clinical outcomes for all patients, including those in rural areas. That's not stripping services, that's stopping doing something stupid.But the reality we are stripping services from rural areas and creating a mega city in Dublin.
The idea that Dublin could be regarded as a mega city is laughably ridiculous. The UK alone has several cities with larger populations than all of Leinster.But the reality we are stripping services from rural areas and creating a mega city in Dublin.
Yes but viability seems to be predicated on cost/population which makes sense. But i think the cost is what is is and the population is arguably there for it if following a route along key urban centres through Monaghan, Omagh, Strabane and on to Derry i.e the NW.It's more the viability card
But there'll be a cost. How much is too much?Rail and/or motorway.
The people of this region dont have this and they should. Period.
That's not stripping services, that's stopping doing something stupid.
The idea that Dublin could be regarded as a mega city is laughably ridiculous. The UK alone has several cities with larger populations than all of Leinster.
We spend vastly more per capita in rural areas than in urban areas
But there'll be a cost. How much is too much?
No, that's a clinical best practice, best outcome for the patient, best value for money for the State perspective. If I was knocked down near Naas Hospital I'd ask the ambulance to bring me to St. James's.I think that's a Dublin perspective. Not someone traveling two days for a hospital appointment or treatment in Dublin.
I'm stating that's it's a characteristic of population density. We agree.That's a characteristic of population density.
That's not a reflection of funding priority or strategy that perhaps you're implying.
population is arguably there for it if following a route along key urban centres through Monaghan, Omagh, Strabane and on to Derry i.e the NW.
Rail and/or motorway.
The people of this region dont have this and they shou
Agree with this. Why, though, is the north west treated so differently to other rural areas that have excellent access to rail and motorways.But that's the trade off in living rurally. You just won't get the infrastructure or services you get in a population center
Again - nobodys suggesting that donegal gets a dart, a luas or a childrens hospital.People shouldn't expect the same access to services in rural areas that people get in urban areas
No, not what I said at all. I was implying the presence of a train service, no matter how good it is will never mean young people will choose to stay in a locality with limited 3rd level education options and more limited employment prospects in many sectors, and little prospect of that changing.So your logic is that because a substandard train service didn't persuade you personally to take the train or stay in the area where you're from, the existence of a quality train service would have no influence on the decision of young people to leave the area?
It's population, demand, value for money, efficiency of delivering a service. If Donegal should have all the services that every other region has then I presume you think it should have a fully capable international airport, every town should have local bus and light rail service, and we should scrap ideas like the National Children's hospital and build fully capable facilities in each county or region?What you are saying here is that there is no logical reason why 1 region should have similar access to the services that another region has access to (this is partly my argument which i assume you are trying to dismiss). Again, the population card.
but doesnt explain why the NW has been so neglected.
Perhaps the simplest answer is that for any proposed service, no government can make a compelling case for the potential value per service user.Both of which are paramount but doesnt explain why the NW has been so neglected.
Like the Galway B&Bs that make all their money from Donegal people attending hospital appointmentsNot someone traveling two days for a hospital appointment or treatment in Dublin
Not when they die in transitbest outcome for the patient,
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