You're missing the obvious point that rail services only work properly when there is a sufficient population base to support them.- its clear there arent huge populations involved here. However, there are still significant polulations and the people of this region deserve to have infrastructural access like the rest of the country has and benefit economically from it.
The point re needing a population to support it is understood. My point is that arguably there is a sufficient population along a dublin to NW route to support it in as much as there is for other routes.You're missing the obvious point that rail services only work properly when there is a sufficient population base to support them.
I have family in two separate counties of the South East each with rail services and in both locations the trains are handy to have but are underutilised because there's barely enough of a population locally to support the sort of frequent services that people need.
There clearly isn't. The relative lack of road infrastructure in that route is an obvious clue of that, as also is the relative lack of retail and social infrastructure.My point is that arguably there is a sufficient population along a dublin to NW route to support it in as much as there is for other routes
The lack of roads proves there should be no roads?The relative lack of road infrastructure in that route is an obvious clue of that,
No, the lack of roads is an indicator of relatively low population - especially in a country which has experienced a considerable expansion of its road network in recent decades.The lack of roads proves there should be no roads?
the lack of roads is an indicator of relatively low population
Hilarious, that's some logic! The lack of roads is simply an indicator that politicians in Donegal are not in the same league as the Healy Raes.No, the lack of roads is an indicator of relatively low population - especially in a country which has experienced a considerable expansion of its road network in recent decades.
That's surprising.Ok then. I see Kerry has twice the length of dual carriageways as Donegal.
They are about the same size and have about the same population.I suppose the population of Kerry is double that of Donegal?
And the topography, population spread, legacy of historical investment, proximity to other population centres etc.Hilarious, that's some logic! The lack of roads is simply an indicator that politicians in Donegal are not in the same league as the Healy Raes.
11k more people in Donegal per 2022 censusThey are about the same size and have about the same population.
Yes, and it's very slightly larger but for the purposes of this discussion they are comparable both in terms of population and size.11k more people in Donegal per 2022 census
Someone doesn't know what an indicator is.Hilarious, that's some logic!
That's also a big problem in Donegal... along with speed limits.Someone doesn't know what an indicator is.
Kerry is surrounded by two counties with relatively high population density and is proximate to two of the country's largest cities.Ok then. I see Kerry has twice the length of dual carriageways as Donegal. I suppose the population of Kerry is double that of Donegal?
Similar topography, similar population, Donegal closer to it's nearest city. It seems the main difference is historical investment.topography, population spread, legacy of historical investment, proximity to other population centres etc.
I'm not disagreeing with you but there's more to it than that.
There was a rail link between where I'm from and where I went to college for a number of years. Now, I never took that train because the times were not convenient, the bus was cheaper and saved a considerable walk. The presence of a train didn't stop me leaving that area as soon as I graduated, grads chase jobs, most of those aren't in the likes of Sligo.Maybe if there was a decent rail link to Sligo then young people might hang around more instead of leaving for college and in many cases never coming back? So many young people move permanently because commuting to college either daily or weekly just isn't a viable option, and renting can be as affordable and far more convenient than commuting.
Now the map you shared is not a population density map. Here's an actual oneA population density map illustrates the stark difference between the two
Donegal's deficit in historical investment is directly attributable to its relative isolation. Derry isn't even in the same jurisdiction and is a relatively poor city too.It seems the main difference is historical investment.
Same conclusions, just different colours.Now the map you shared is not a population density map. Here's an actual one
What, Derry? It's a poor town in a different country with a population of 80,000 or so.Similar topography, similar population, Donegal closer to it's nearest city.
Yea, for 40 years the lunatics in the IRA made sure that most of the border crossings were closed and the only connection to the rest of this country was a small sliver where it met Sligo. Now the same clowns are complaining about lack of investment and infrastructure without acknowledging that they are largely to blame.It seems the main difference is historical investment.
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