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Is any tax fair?
That's not what I said. There have always been taxes on income / wealth / production, levied both by churches and civil powers. The change introduced during WWI was direct taxation of income / wages at source i.e. PAYE.mathepac, that's quite interesting. I'd never heard where income tax first came from....
That's not what I said. There have always been taxes on income / wealth / production, levied both by churches and civil powers. The change introduced during WWI was direct taxation of income / wages at source i.e. PAYE.
Previous taxes were retrospective, gathered at harvest-time, etc.
Never take anyone's word for anything. Always back it up with a check on wikipedia.
Put isn't that irrelevant? If a millionaire never spends his money but leaves it in the bank won't he have the same living standard as someone on the poverty line (obviously by choice). As soon as he starts to spend then you tax him, like everyone else. Does it really matter if he has lots of paper in the bank?The main reason I disagree with it is that a millionaire who buys an alarm clock pays a much lower percent of their income in taxes, than someone earning minimum wage (making it a regressive tax).
That is one good advantage of VAT, that it's hard to avoid. Although it's not impossible to avoid and lots of business goes on undeclared to avoid VAT charges.
Have you tried reading the Wikipedia documentation on how articles are authored and managed?Where does the info come from on wikipedia and who checks it? Sorry for going of topic.
Having said that, I think this outweighs the positive side of VAT. The main reason I disagree with it is that a millionaire who buys an alarm clock pays a much lower percent of their income in taxes, than someone earning minimum wage (making it a regressive tax).
luckily we have an irish tax system,where only the poor pay tax and the irish royalty,ie the racing fraternity the politicians and the upper crust pay no tax,much better than the brit system as mentioned above.
I’m not disagreeing with you but I'm not really sure about what is the most evaded tax, although VAT is tax that's very difficult to avoid for consumers. Completely agree that it's complicity is one of it's flaws.VAT is the most evaded, and the most complicated, of all taxes.
Yeah, just try adding some incorrect information to Wikipedia and see how long it last. Wikipedia is a lot more well managed and accurate than people give it credit for. Less credible than a traditional encyclopaedia, a lot more credible than word of mouth, and containing a much greater amount of knowledge.Have you tried reading the Wikipedia documentation on how articles are authored and managed?
As you say, it's by their choice they aren't spending the money. At the other end of the scale, the poorest people can't afford to keep savings. At the end of the day, the money is going to be spent somewhere, or it is just paper in the bank, so why tax it when it's spent, under (to me) the less justified method.But isn't that irrelevant? If a millionaire never spends his money but leaves it in the bank won't he have the same living standard as someone on the poverty line (obviously by choice). As soon as he starts to spend then you tax him, like everyone else. Does it really matter if he has lots of paper in the bank?
Hold on, let me just check Wikipedia...Actually what you are proposing is a regressive tax. A regressive tax is one in which people get taxed by a higher percentage when their earnings rise i.e. discourages a more productive life.
Wikipedia said:
VAT only is a neutral tax regime as everyone pays the same percentage.
I've asked this question before on this forum & elsewhere, but why should a millionaire who is buying an alarm clock pay a higher rate of VAT (or any tax)? I've never received a credible answer. The only response I've ever got is a sour grapes "because s/he earns more", which doesnt make sense. Taxing people more for working harder or better penalises production which hinders the economy.
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