What's the point in appealing if he's going to pay it?He will pay the fine but wondering if theres any grounds at all to appeal it
89 in an 80 zone is hardly "just over".given that he was just over.
I've heard anecdotes in the past about the Gardai applying a certain percentage margin above the limit, but any margin in action today would have to be applied before the issuance of the FPN. I've passed speed vans slightly above the limits and not received notices, so perhaps there is a margin in play today that is 10% or less.Is there any leeway with been over the limit by just a bit. I recall hearing that 10% over might be acceptable. Obviously this is more than 10% but is the 10% thing even a thing?!
I don’t think your friend has any argument being 9 Kph over, The Sovereign King of Ireland was only 5 Kph over the limit and failed in his legal bid, he is appealing it though.A friend of mine got a FPN. Was doing 89kms in a 80km zone.
He will pay the fine but wondering if theres any grounds at all to appeal it given that he was just over.
Guilty as charged! - And no sympathy from me
The award of a goal is actually the referee's call. They can overrule the umpire.I was an umpire at a recent camogie game. The sliotar was just six inches over the goal line and rolled back towards the field of play and I waved the green flag. The coach of the defending team informed me that "you could have let it go." - You can't win no matter how right you are.
That's incorrect. It's only if you're over the specified speed limit that you're potentially committing an offence.In the situation here the speed limit is 80km per hour and the driver was doing 89km per hour. 80km is regarded as speeding
My learned friend, you're right, let's do away with the need for the green flag umpire to attend and have a white flag umpire only.The award of a goal is actually the referee's call. They can overrule the umpire.
Hi @ClubMan, Up to last week I would have agreed with you, but a solar power speeding warning in Cork advised that 80km in an 80km zone is "speeding" and it displayed an unsmiling face. Now, that may be part of grounds for an appeal.That's incorrect. It's only if you're over the specified speed limit that you're potentially committing an offence.
That's incorrect too.Hi @ClubMan, Up to last week I would have agreed with you, but a solar power speeding warning in Cork advised that 80km in an 80km zone is "speeding" and it displayed an unsmiling face. Now, that me be part of grounds for an appeal.
“47.—(1) A person shall not drive a mechanically propelled vehicle at a speed exceeding the speed limit—
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That doesn't even make sense.To a lot of people (including most judges) doing 89kph in a 80 kph zone sounds worse than doing (what would have been the equivalent) 55mph in a 50mph zone, despite exceeding the limit by slightly less.
You're right - please accept my apologies.That doesn't even make sense.
9 > 5 and 11.25% > 10%
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