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well when i said dole,i meant unemployment Benefit and yes he does get 430euro a week,plus he was paying 80euro a week rent for his house,he didnt go for the buy option,all this is a fact,why dont you check it out on the social welfare page and see for yourself.
Don't give facists a bad name. Your mandatory abortion proposal isn't facism. It is 100 times worse. It is completely abhorrent. I'd imagine that on mature reflection, you will realise this and see the light. Just think about how many of your family/friends/colleagues would not have passed your cash test. But if not, can I suggest that you accompany me to meet a range of family, friends, work colleagues who would undoubtedly have failed your economic barrier. I'd really like to see you look them in the eye and tell them they should have been aborted - that they had no right to live their lives because their parent(s) didn't have enough money. Better still, let's just go on a tour of certain areas of Dublin and you can stand on a soap box singing about your proposal. I'd be most interested in seeing the outcome.He he, very true. Ok, so it could be said that we, as a country, are paying out excessive amounts of welfare to young single mothers in support and housing payments... this is fundamentally due to a Catholic religious ideal.. that the family and life etc are amazing and should always be defended...
So if that is one of our problems what about this.??... Abortion should be mandatory if an expectant mother can't demonstrate the means (and the parenting skills!) to care for the child. There, I've said it. Maybe I'm a fascist.
(Of course I would have preferred to see money well spent during the good years on education and creating opportunities in dis-advantaged areas... )
well when i said dole,i meant unemployment Benefit and yes he does get 430euro a week,plus he was paying 80euro a week rent for his house,he didnt go for the buy option,all this is a fact,why dont you check it out on the social welfare page and see for yourself.
I agree.We are all only a stroke of a pen away from being on social welfare
Can I just point out that you are paying 320 Euros on Credit union monthly from the money you are getting - that's the reason there is nothing left. Without the credit union it should be working out ok.
No I do not think the country can afford to pay for sw fraudsters or sw tourists! The Govt should be leaving no stone unturned to stamp benefit theft out. I think duplicate/inflated claims must be a huge drain on an overwhelmed system. I absolutely detest the 'SW tourists' that have arrived in ROI, avail of SW, Education system and public healthcare. This is of course a 'hot potato' issue....The question is not if people deserve it, we need to ask if the country can afford to pay it.
Just like the Irish have done in the UK for decades...I absolutely detest the 'SW tourists' that have arrived in ROI, avail of SW, Education system and public healthcare. This is of course a 'hot potato' issue....
I agree.
Do I think 204euro pw is too much. No not with the cost of living in Ireland. I think you can exist keep your head above water on SW.
However after reading through the posts on this thread (phew!). I do think that there is a vast differeance between receiving a SW payment honestly or fraudently. All allowances other than JSB is means tested. Go on Citizens Advice website and check out what would be your allowances if you suddenly found you were unwaged.... Think about how you would survive not live. No you will not get your ESB, or TV licence etc. paid..... unless you are elderly. Fraudulent SW recipaints do very well for themselves and IMO are thieves and the lowest of the low. Any ordinary Jo(e) who happens to find themselves in the unhappy situation of needing to rely on SW well that is a totally different matter.
I agree that there was mass exodus from our shores in past decades. The exodus was a reluctant reality, working long and hard hours to survive not a planned exercise to be a SW tourist. The UK authorities got great value out of our citizens labour. Not a like for like situation at all in my book.Just like the Irish have done in the UK for decades...
One of the few things that went up in the last budget was the Social Welfare payment, to around EUR 209 per week.
Does someone really need EUR 209 per week to survive.
A friend of mine is getting rent allowance, lives in a 1 bed apartment in Letterkenny.
He has to pay an additional EUR 35 out of his social welfare to cover the shortfall in rent allowance.
I asked him candidly over the Christmas period, if you didn't smoke or drink for the week, how much would it cost you to live.
He said around EUR75.
So that's an extra EUR 100 he's got to 'enjoy himself' with every week.
Surely social welfare should be means or locally assessed. i.e. the cost of living in Dublin would be much higher than in the wilds of Donegal, or families with additional mouths to feed etc.
Also, the person just made unemployed with a hefty mortgage to pay, yes I accept the case for needing to pay a higher amount here too.
But my original question was this. Do you pay too much in Social Welfare payments.
Consider that social welfare in England at the moment is around EUR70 per week.
If you feel like replying, I'd appreciate it if you could say whether you are receiving Social Welfare payments or not.
I totally agree on this one. instead of ensuring those who want to work but cannot find employment, complete projects which enhance the local areas we want them to sit at home and look at the place decay around them or move to towns and cities so that rural areas become ghost towns...there is a scheme called a CE scheme where long term unemployed can work three days a week in all manner of services that benefit the community and country as a whole for just a few euro more above the welfare payments, this is a voluntary scheme which many people happily partake of in order to keep a sense of dignity, a sense of contribution and to keep themselves busy and sane........only the government have in their wisdom imposed a two month embargo on anyone taking up this option, and may even be scrapped alltogether.
In light of the fact that most self employed tradesmen do not receive a single penny in state handouts I am sure many would be oly too happy to be paid even a pittance.
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