Brendan Burgess
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They may not involve another vehicle as such but could be because of other cyclists, pedestrians, pets on a lead or not or could be just the good old pot hole that the cyclist didn't see in time.A lot of injuries suffered by cyclists do not involve another vehicle. They fall off their bike.
Doesn't the article basically say the same thing?They may not involve another vehicle as such but could be because of other cyclists, pedestrians, pets on a lead or not or could be just the good old pot hole that the cyclist didn't see in time.
There are many reasons why a cyclist could "Fall off their bike" up to and including the cyclist
Some of it includes road injuries not reported to gardaí, for example crashes involving single cyclists, often due to road conditions or loss of control.
Indeed it does Mr Clubman, I wasn't quoting the article but rather Mr BB's inaccurate synopsis of a point made in the articleDoesn't the article basically say the same thing?
Given they're still illegal pending EU ratification, survey participants might be reticent to be fully honest so an accurate picture of commuting use might be a challenge, but the article above does reference scooters and accident rates.I’d be very interested to see similar data for e-scooters
Or (very likely in my experience) because of other vehicles (but without a collision with them). I've lost count of the number of times cars/vans/etc. pull in front of me without looking while I'm cycling (cut me off while turning/drive in cycle lane suddenly/etc.), which could easily cause loss of control without affecting the other vehicle at all. As several here have said, the article is frustratingly light on data/references, and I think this is generally a problem with reporting of road statistics.They may not involve another vehicle as such but could be because of other cyclists, pedestrians, pets on a lead or not or could be just the good old pot hole that the cyclist didn't see in time.
There are many reasons why a cyclist could "Fall off their bike" up to and including the cyclist
As a regular cyclist it is my opinion that the number one cause of collisions between cars/vans and cyclists is cyclist behaviour.Or (very likely in my experience) because of other vehicles (but without a collision with them). I've lost count of the number of times cars/vans/etc. pull in front of me without looking while I'm cycling (cut me off while turning/drive in cycle lane suddenly/etc.), which could easily cause loss of control without affecting the other vehicle at all. As several here have said, the article is frustratingly light on data/references, and I think this is generally a problem with reporting of road statistics.
You maybe a "regular" cyclist but a "real" cyclist would never make that kind of comment!!!!!!As a regular cyclist it is my opinion that the number one cause of collisions between cars/vans and cyclists is cyclist behaviour.
Well said. Me too.I don't get hit by vehicles, because I treat every car/van/truck like a predator that is actively trying to kill me.
An example of this is at every leg of a roundabout I pass, I turn my flashing lights (day or night, they are on) towards the drivers waiting to enter the roundabout, and try to make eye contact - many still enter the roundabout as they just don't look.
You mentioned smooth manhole - just noting LUAS tracks can have particular risks:As a regular cyclist my last 'falls' have been from:
A stone the size of a mug that I hadn't seen - wounded pride & grazes.
New bike with brake levers opposite to normal, cost one broken finger.
Pedestrian jumping out in front of me without looking, broken elbow for me.
Skidding on a smooth manhole - broken rib.
These all occurred at reasonably low speeds in a city.
From time to time I cycle in rural/mountain areas "where much higher speeds are involved" - I haven't had accidents on these.
I don't get hit by vehicles, because I treat every car/van/truck like a predator that is actively trying to kill me.
An example of this is at every leg of a roundabout I pass, I turn my flashing lights (day or night, they are on) towards the drivers waiting to enter the roundabout, and try to make eye contact - many still enter the roundabout as they just don't look.
It would be helpful if cyclists also put their phones away. I've seen many with their phone to their ear and more than a few texting while cycling.Would just like drivers to slow down, give cyclists space and put their phones away
Its research found that 42 per cent of hospital recorded cases were car users, compared with 26 per cent for cyclists.
Of those 908 children who were killed or seriously injured, just over
(51%) were pedestrians,
28% were vehicle passengers, and
18% were cyclists.
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