Of course it is because people can! In tandem with that, it's for the reason that Purple highlighted i.e. how public money converts into services (or more to the point, how it doesn't!). Notwithstanding that, there were other groupings who chose non-payment due to other concerns they had.Your point is very valid. Why object to a €100 charge on this basis when the income tax charge is so much higher?
Imagine the furore if landlords withheld income tax on their rental income because the legal system governing landord and tenants was so inefficient. And they might have a better case.
Equally delighted the debate is taking place. It's a major problem in IE that needs to be addressed. There is no will to address it yet - so maybe it's time to force the issue.Purple said:I’ve paid the charge because I am in favour of property taxes but I’m delighted to hear this debate taking place.
Of course they don't. But, in the first instance, don't we have to start somewhere? Furthermore, how were they to withhold public moneys going towards the Health Service (see reasoning above)?Purple said:Does anyone seriously think there’s less waste in the public Health Service than there is in Local Authorities?
Its because people can - as eloquently described above by serotoninsid.
Its because of the pretence of what it is for.
Its because its the straw thats breaking the camels back.
Its because people have paid large sums in stamp duty, local authority fees and are being asked to pay again.
Its because people pay management fees for local services and feel they are going to be paying twice.
Its because tenants are not being asked to pay - yet they use the local services as much as home owners.
And its because people believed Enda when he said:
"It is morally wrong, unjust and unfair to tax a persons home" - Enda Kenny, 1994
And its because people believed Enda when he said:
"It is morally wrong, unjust and unfair to tax a persons home" - Enda Kenny, 1994
I don't agree with the general objections to a property tax
Yes, that's my main point.I am constantly amazed at the staggering inefficiency of virtually every aspect of public life in Ireland. Local government, central government, semi-states etc, are all afflicted by this malaise.
I have no problem paying my fair share of tax, however, I do have a major problem paying taxes that are squandered so blatantly. The blame for this waste lies with the decision makers at every level - government, ministers, senior public servants, senior union officials. I paid the household charge, and while I remain here, I will (reluctantly) pay all taxes levied. If we accept that it is OK not to pay this tax, then why don't we all default on every tax.
. Have listened to Luke Flanagan and other councellors on the general waste in County Councils around the country, !
One's status as a mortgage holder is totally irrelevant as far as liability for the HC goes.It's not a 'Household Charge' - 'Householders' aren't being charged, 'Mortgage-holders are.
Tell that to FF, PDs, Greens...It doesn't seem to matter what or when any politician does or say, whether it was 18 years ago or just before a general election - there are no consequences for their actions
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