Brendan Burgess
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..........The ISI takes a lot of flak for the slow uptake of formal agreements like DSA/PIA's but the lack of consequences for debtors mean there is no incentive to enter a formal procedure and have spending levels imposed.
Forbearance and other can-kicking methods for debtors must have left this country with 100's of thousands previously credit worthy people who now have no chance of getting credit in the foreseeable future.
People need to address their issues, move on and over time build their credit worthiness again.
I strongly agree that affordability should be the main criteria, and I was only raising (hares!).solutions
...A Big Bang option?{just me looking outside the norm!}
Reduce all mortgages by 50% of the negative equity part of the mortgage.
Eg Mortgage k300 value k200 , negative equity K100.
Write off K50 so new Mortgage = k250.
I can find umpteen reasons not to do something drastic as above but I see no long term profit in the way things are.
At this stage I am open to any suggestions .
.............Another thought on the above -- the various factors (including government and bank collusion) keeping our prices high are going to come back to haunt us. I'm reading about Polish software engineers initially attracted by much higher wages in Ireland, now considering going back to Poland for a fraction of the salary, but where they are able to buy a good quality new 2-bed apartment for a mortgage of €400/month. Our competitiveness is getting hammered by all this foot-dragging on mortgages.
So leave people in houses now way beyond their means just because they bought at a certain time, whilst others like myself were saving hard and wary of taking on excessive debt. Now that'd be a valuable lesson for us all.............
dub-nerd.
Your comments I cannot disagree with ,and in anything like a normal situation make sense.
However this whole mess is now so tangled that multiple repos etc I think would create too much social upheaval.
I think repoing and putting repo,d houses on market would simply end up in a Vulture fest! since the only people who could buy would be vultures etc etc.
Tough one , I think we need Solomon to help us.!
Definitely NOT saying to leave any non payers in situ , as you say that would be grossly unfair .So leave people in houses now way beyond their means just because they bought at a certain time, whilst others like myself were saving hard and wary of taking on excessive debt. Now that'd be a valuable lesson for us all
Alternative: repossess all houses in mortgage arrears and put them on the market. The price of housing will plummet. Sell them to the highest bidder.
Almost every home that's repossessed means somebody seeking alternative accommodation. There's already a huge shortage in social housing so househunters would find themselves bidding against landlords, Local Authorities and Housing Associations as the evictee would need to be housed somewhere. If anything, bidding wars will start and prices could rocket until there is a surplus of social housing. It's a messy situation, I don't think forbearance is the answer but I also think mass repossessions will bring many househunters wetdreams to reality.
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