Nice - why don't you go for a drive with a few teenage boys and see if you can cause permanent injuryI have my collection of rotten eggs at the ready for those picket lines. Can't wait.
Why limit the efficiency improvements to the public service? Surely this would improve efficiency in the banks and the retailers and the factories too? Let's take the same approach with your job and every job - right?If I had my way I would introduce a policy whereby all staff in quangos would be made reapply for their positions and all such positions are of a temporary nature. I'd then apply this model to the general civil service. I think standards and efficiency would increase if people were hired on a contract basis.
Me too - every time I read that anti-public-service stuff in the Indo or the Sunday Times.It was for this very reason that Id take the news reports with a pinch of salt.
Nice - why don't you go for a drive with a few teenage boys and see if you can cause permanent injury
Thats an awfull thing to happen to anyone...
I thought nurses were very badly paid,so how come she said she had lost earnings of €1.5m --,maybe that is badly paid..
Why limit the efficiency improvements to the public service? Surely this would improve efficiency in the banks and the retailers and the factories too? Let's take the same approach with your job and every job - right?
Its called being sacked.Which does happen out here..but not in there!
I worked in the public sector by the way and the most appalling behaviour had absolutly no repercussions.
Me too - every time I read that anti-public-service stuff in the Indo or the Sunday Times.
Tell that to these 3,000 http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-new...r-3000-council-staff-let-go-during-recession/ and that's just one sector. But Firefly's suggestion was not just about non-performers - he wants to sack everybody.Its called being sacked.Which does happen out here..but not in there!
Tell that to these 3,000 http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-new...r-3000-council-staff-let-go-during-recession/ and that's just one sector. But Firefly's suggestion was not just about non-performers - he wants to sack everybody.
Its a starting point. A saving of 10% from staff cuts is the same as a 10% saving from pay cuts from the exchequer's point of view. As I've said many times on various threads before, it is better to get rid of surplus employees than to have the remainder of the workforce take a pay cut in order to keep these surplus employees on the payroll doing nothing.
I actually believe that there is more scope for savings from staff cuts than pay cuts. With pay cuts, politically speaking, you're not going to be able to go beyond single digit percentages for most, particularly since a 7.5% pay cut has already taken place. There are politically inspired agencies where you could cut 100% of the staff without any impact on public services. In admin heavy local politics dominated organisations such as the HSE, you could easily cut around 20% of the staff (mostly on the admin side - hangover from health boards e.g.the plethora of "assistant national directors" and their staff) and have little or no impact on services.
That's not the same thing at all and you know it.
I have never read a direct answer from Complainer to a hard question, just deflection and negative insinuations that do not share his socialist dogma.
Are you saying that teachers in rural areas should be paid less?Rates of pay are pretty much the same where ever you go in Ireland.
It did not go region by region, things are cheaper down the country.
eg a teacher or a nurse down in Kanturk would be far better off than a teacher in Dublin.
Are you saying that teachers in rural areas should be paid less?
Maybe if you asked a question like Complainer, "what do you think we should do?", rather than the "have you quit beating your wife up type questions" or the "we are going to cut one of your hands off, which one do you want to lose" type of questions.
There have been lots of threads about what we should do. You have posted your ideas, I have posted mine, others have posted their. Not once have I read anything constructive from our friend. I have only seen a stream of condescending negativity aimed at the constructive posts of others.
This is the type of question you ask Complainer.
I believe that if you live in a high cost area you should have an allowance to allow you to live there ie in London Nurses get a "London Allowance" (or something similiar) to live in the city
Are you saying that teachers in rural areas should be paid less?
Dont ALL gardai get a rent allowence ,regardless of where they live??
This is a very good question and these type of questions are not "when did you stop beating your wife" type questions,but are nessasary to try to establish exactly what a poster is saying .
They are also nessasary as some posters will say things without making their point clear,therby making other posters post claifaction posts.
Yes they do because they can be posted to the other side of the country at the drop of a hat.
I know one Garda who is from Kerry lives in Dublin but works in Donegal.
I think that if they do get moved to the other side of the country then and only then should they recieve a rent allowence!
It is crazy that they get it as just in case.
I know a lot of guards and they have lived in the same house / same area all their lives and they get this allowence.
Yes but he is not being clear is he saying the country folk should be paid less then the Dublin workers or should Dublin workers be paid more than country workers.
When I lived in the country ,certaintly house/car insurance was cheaper.
Houses are cheaper too.
so maybe the allowence should be looked at and those who are moved to the country should have their wages reduced..
I dont get you there?Well since the Garda are are of the public service maybe everyone who has to leave their home or travel (big distances) to work in the public service should get it.
But they are not going to find themselves moved from Kilkenny to Sligo at the drop of a hat.I dont get you there?
Many people I know have to travel from areas such as Kilkenny,carlow ,wexford,waterford o Dublin for example,each and every day and they dont get a rent allowence .
But they are not going to find themselves moved from Kilkenny to Sligo at the drop of a hat.
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