Yes, that's certainly a factor.Israel is a modern state and we expect a bit more, is part of it.
Yes and no; the culpability of other players in the region is willfully ignored by our media. Why do they do that?The relentlessness of their campaign is another aspect - for decades they have laid seige to a people.
I would indeed. I'm not sure that's I'd only be protesting against the Israelis though.If you were stuck in the Gaza strip I'm sure you'd be willing to protest.
Agreed.From the pictures we've seen it was people throwing stones from half a mile away, who were picked off by snipers - it was totally disproportionate response to any perceived threat.
Why do we get so exorcised about what Israel does while we ignore what Turkey does?
Why is Israel held to higher standards that its neighbours?
True but an examination of the population of the area at the time, and in the 50-100 or so years leading up to then shows that it's not that simple.Now we feel guilty about the adverse effects our decision had on the people who lived there at the time.
Then, a few days later a HAMAS representative admitted that 50 of the 62 killed were HAMAS operatives with only 12 being "civilians".
With respect, are you certain that you are getting the full story?With respect, within the artice itself from "Israel Times", it is somewhat disputed as to how many of the victims were Hamas.
Also, being a member of Hamas is quite common in Gaza, and when the organisation called Hamas openly calls for Palestinians to partake in a march it is not surprising to me to see that large numbers of Hamas members would partake in the protest.
Finally, the only evidence of an 'attack' from Hamas, that I have seen, are petrol bombs, stone-throwing and wire-cutting the fence.
The Israeli response was wholly disproportionate, quite often indiscrimanate and rightly condemned for its barbaric murders of children.
With respect, are you certain that you are getting the full story?
Why do we get so exorcised about what Israel does while we ignore what Turkey does?
Why are we not all calling for a boycott on Saudi Arabia for it's support of terrorism and the horrific war it has wages in Yemen?
Where's the politicians and musicians protesting about that or the more than 100 people executed in Saudi each year for crimes including attending public protests and adultery, after which their severed heads can be left on public display?
I just can't shake the idea that the fact that Israel is Jewish has something to do with it
True but an examination of the population of the area at the time, and in the 50-100 or so years leading up to then shows that it's not that simple.
At that time there were restrictions on Jews emigrating to the area, restrictions which became far stricter under the British Mandate. At the same time there was a massive influx of Arabs, mainly to work for Jewish Zionist settlers who were investing large amounts of money in agricultural infrastructure.It really is that simple, as the source you quote quite clearly shows.
In 1922, when political Zionism was already active, the Jewish population of Palestine was 11%. Today it is 74.7%.
We can't do anything that means anything but we don't make noise about Saudi or Turkey like we do about Israel. Irish people won't buy Israeli oranges but we'll happily go on holidays to Turkey (unless we fear a terrorist attack).I disagree. Despite all the condemnation, we dont actually do anything. The reason I think Israel gets a hard time over their blatant atrocities over say, Saudi Arabia, is because it relies heavily on Western support to survive.
We are not Neutral, we are unaligned. If we were neutral we'd be capable of defending ourselves but we are not. Austria and Switzerland are neutral and have large armies.Its why we are 'nuetral' but allow US warplanes to land at Shannon. Its why we expel Russian diplomats at the behest of dubious British claims but only summon Israeli diplomats despite slaughter.
On that issue; why didn't our media report on the fact that Egypt had closed its border with Gaza and, as a fellow Arab nation, could easily have supplied all of the food and medical needs of the people there?On the subject of ships, was there any justification for blocking the flotilla of medical aid that time? Should the LE Aisling have been kept and utilised for such humanitarian work - still under Irish Naval control - or does Israel think we'd be slipping them an odd AK-47???, or maybe they just don't like siege relief, you never know how dangerous food and bandages could be......
We can't do anything that means anything but we don't make noise about Saudi or Turkey like we do about Israel. Irish people won't buy Israeli oranges but we'll happily go on holidays to Turkey (unless we fear a terrorist attack).
We are not Neutral, we are unaligned. If we were neutral we'd be capable of defending ourselves but we are not. Austria and Switzerland are neutral and have large armies.
Imagine Richard Boyd Barrett and the others in Slogans before Reality if we'd sold a naval ship to the Israeli's instead of a Libyan Warlord.
Imagine how the British would have reacted if Sinn Fein had taken power in a quasi-independent Northern Ireland in the mid 1970's. That's what this is like for Israel.
The IRA had legitimate grievances and had widespread support in NI. If there was a partitioned Catholic State-let they may well have won an election whilst still being terrorists.I don't think that is a useful analogy. Hamas have been democratically elected in the Gaza Strip have they not? The recent protests have as their basis, legitimate grievances of being driven out or having to flee their homelands.
Sure, and we couldn't have any control over who it was sold to next? Riiight.Except we didn't sell it to a Libyan Warlord, according to the article we sold it to a Dutch business man who in turn sold it to a Libyan warlord - Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar.
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