A friend who works in the HSE said that she gets a notification from her union rep telling her how many sick days she has left. She said that she is put under low-level pressure to take them.
Ring them now and something tells me you might get a better response...what's the area code for Australia again??During the boom times how many people were left waiting by builders, tradesmen wtc who have no concept of customer service. They took deposits to hold jobs and then did not turn up or turned up late while running several jobs at the one time.
I think many in the building trade lived by the motto "make hay while the sun shines"....granted others lived by the motto "stand and deliver" but that's a different thing. I basically think there just isn't enough work going around at the moment to keep them all goingIf instead of being greedy they provided a good service to their customers, many of whom were ordinary people getting refurbishments, extension etc they would continue to be getting steady work.
Probably cause they're the ones doing up the listWhen you read the list of tax defaulters issued by the Revenue Commissioners there isnt any Clerical Officers on the list.
I agree that the building sector was grossly inefficient (so is the public sector BTW). The SME sector is not much better. The one thing that made us look good through the early and mid 90’s was the multinational manufacturing sector which, somewhat ironically, has been nearly killed by the increase in our cost base driven by wage inflation caused by the building boom and public sector pay bonanza.From what we have been hearing over the last while the impression is being given that the private sector is a absolute model of efficiency.
During the boom times how many people were left waiting by builders, tradesmen wtc who have no concept of customer service. They took deposits to hold jobs and then did not turn up or turned up late while running several jobs at the one time.
If instead of being greedy they provided a good service to their customers, many of whom were ordinary people getting refurbishments, extension etc they would continue to be getting steady work.
When you read the list of tax defaulters issued by the Revenue Commissioners there isnt any Clerical Officers on the list.
Not too many of them on the list of people who lose their homes when their businesses fail either.When you read the list of tax defaulters issued by the Revenue Commissioners there isnt any Clerical Officers on the list.
Not too many of them on the list of people who lose their homes when their businesses fail either.
The one thing that made us look good through the early and mid 90’s was the multinational manufacturing sector which, somewhat ironically, has been nearly killed by the increase in our cost base driven by wage inflation caused by the building boom and public sector pay bonanza.
Really? Have a think about it (and how people re-mortgage their home and/or use their life savings to start businesses) and come back to me.Is there such a list? Can you provide numbers/stats of such people who lose their homes relative to public servants?
If not, your contention is bogus.
The whole economy is joined up; pay rises for 25% of the workforce cause inflation for the whole economy. This makes the whole country more expensive to do business in and less competitive internationally. It's really very simple (and universally accepted by economists).Can you explain how public sector pay contributes to a decline in the manufacturing sector?
In very simple terms if everyone in the country gets a 10% pay increase nobody is really better off, we are just 10% less competitive internationally.
Class....You reckon you can do it quite nicely over a couple of posts with your University of Liveline level of rigour
Purple;756768============-------------- The notion of people taking their uncertified sick days as if they were extra holidays is completely alien to me said:I realise I'm coming to this debate late in the day, but I am so sick of this myth going around that public servants treat sick leave like some kind of extension of their annual leave. This is so untrue. The girl I share a room with has taken one days sick leave in the year and a half I have been working with her and I have often seen her coming into work when she is obviously not well. My own boss came into work yesterday after having dealt with her house being completely flooded, handled a major crisis at work, went for a root canal treatment and was back at her desk an hour later. A friend of mine has never taken a days sick leave in ten years and always takes annual leave when she is unwell. I spent three days in hospital recently having tests. On the fourth day, after the final test, I headed straight to the bus stop and came into work. None of us would be considered unusual in the civil service and its really annoying to read all these stupid stories going around. As I have said before, Yes there are some chancers and lazy soandsos in the Civil Service and nobody would be happier to see them get their comeuppance than their fed up colleagues. But please don't tar us all with the same brush. Its lazy and unintelligent and comes across as smug and arrogant.
The explanation given certainly does explain how pay affects competitiveness.That (may) explain how pay affects competitiveness. You attributed a lack of competiveness to apublic servce to a "public service pay bonanza" which, even it existed, is something quite different.
That (may) explain how pay affects competitiveness. You attributed a lack of competiveness to apublic servce to a "public service pay bonanza" which, even it existed, is something quite different.
You clearly have an agenda against the public service which wouldn't be unacceptable if it was moderately well informed. It took the OECD several months with several people to produce an analysis of the Irish civil service. You reckon you can do it quite nicely over a couple of posts with your University of Liveline level of rigour
I work in the public service and have no objection to constructive criticism and acknowledge that taxpayers are entiltled to expect good value for money. However, the tone and content of your regular musings suggests you don't really have a wide enough knowledge of the public service to allow you draw the sweeping conclusions you do.
Until you actually know what you're talking about, you should really desist.
I realise I'm coming to this debate late in the day, but I am so sick of this myth going around that public servants treat sick leave like some kind of extension of their annual leave. This is so untrue.
I realise I'm coming to this debate late in the day, but I am so sick of this myth going around that public servants treat sick leave like some kind of extension of their annual leave. This is so untrue. The girl I share a room with has taken one days sick leave in the year and a half I have been working with her and I have often seen her coming into work when she is obviously not well. My own boss came into work yesterday after having dealt with her house being completely flooded, handled a major crisis at work, went for a root canal treatment and was back at her desk an hour later. A friend of mine has never taken a days sick leave in ten years and always takes annual leave when she is unwell. I spent three days in hospital recently having tests. On the fourth day, after the final test, I headed straight to the bus stop and came into work. None of us would be considered unusual in the civil service and its really annoying to read all these stupid stories going around. As I have said before, Yes there are some chancers and lazy soandsos in the Civil Service and nobody would be happier to see them get their comeuppance than their fed up colleagues. But please don't tar us all with the same brush. Its lazy and unintelligent and comes across as smug and arrogant.
I'll let her know. AFAIK she's only there about 6 years but having come from the private sector she gets angry as the waste, unions and bad work practices. Maybe it’s because she sees money wasted as money which could have been spent helping sick people. Perhaps after 19 years she’ll play by the rules but I hope not since she went into healthcare to help sick people (idealists; what a strange bunch!).I have worked in the HSE for 19 years and have to say I find this very hard to believe. The union rep should not have access to any employees record.
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