And you are correct. It is the current generation of tax payers HAVE NEVER HAD IT SO GOOD!
Let's look at the facts and construct a 'misery index' of what you lose due to the mortgage rate; inflation and marginal income tax rate. I don't normally do free research, but from 1977 onwards the misery index is:
It's only ten years ago that the misery index dropped below 50.
For those who have managed to have private pension, it is estimated that average pot they have is circa 200,000.
Today that 200,000 will buy pension of 10,000 a year BUT if index linked that drops to 5,000.
Currently I'm fixing with Ulster bank for 2.7% over 5 years and I consider that nearly money for nothing, my variable being 2.5%. .
Brendan.
Can you post a link to this article. I cannot find it.
Brendan.
Can you post a link to this article. I cannot find it.
.............With the indexed at 5K, the person in retirement would be better off withdrawing 10 K each year, they'd get the interest on the balance, and the 200K would last 20 years. Not many people are going to make it to 86! But I believe that pensioners are forced into buying annuities. They are changing this in the UK. It's an open licence for annuity companies to profit heftily from the hard earned life savings of carefull people.
Are you doing this in Ireland?
If the variable is some sort of tracker, fixing might not be a good idea.
Ps . I intend living well past 86 !
An interesting debate that surfaced last week on askaboutmoney.com, a personal finance forum, looked at a couple earning €36,000. Up to age 65,
they pay income tax of €2,250, universal social charge (USC) of €1,839 and pay-related social insurance (PRSI) of €1,440.
At 65 they are immediately €2,250 better off because the couple become exempt from income tax on the basis of their age and earnings. They also
become exempt from deposit interest retention tax on their savings.
At 66 they gain another €1,440 because at this age people stop paying PRSI. At 70 there is a further gain of €600 because they fall out of the 7% rate
of USC.
Their earnings are in good shape too because the bedrock of retirement earnings — the state pension of up to €12,000 per person — is the only core
social welfare payment that has not been cut. However, government has made it harder for pensioners to qualify for medical cards and slashed
subsidies for their energy and telephone bills and television licences.
Daring to question pensioners’ entitlements is a risky business, with emotions threatening to spoil the discussion on askaboutmoney.com. Cooler
heads were in control when the government’s Commission on Taxation examined the income tax exemption for pensioners in 2009. It concluded the
exemption should continue because the exchequer would gain little by taxing individual pensioners.
However, its analysis failed to take account of how valuable the exemption is for single-income couples, for whom it can mean substantial tax savings
when they reach 65, as seen by the example on askaboutmoney.com.
One of the justifications for being soft on pensioners is to provide some reward for the punishing taxes they paid in the 1970s and 1980s. Workers
currently paying 52% tax on earnings over €32,800 can only hope that future generations will be equally appreciative of their sacrifice.
From The Sunday Times, Sept 14
I am assured by a pensioner who checked it, that the 36,000 threshold has the following catch . Can some AAM member advise.
He is married .
He has pension 23,000 .
She has pension 22,000.
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Total pension 45,000
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Revenue say that the lower pension can avail of Nil tax.ie no tax on the 22,000.
The catch is that the higher pension gets no allowance ie taxed@41% on the full 23,000.
Seems the 36,000 is a bit of a con?
Await comments please.
.........It's excellent if the combined incomes are below or marginally above €36k, but meaningless otherwise.
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