How does the Coroner Service work in Ireland? What are the Coroners' qualifications?

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How does the Coroners Court work? What are the qualifications of a Coroner?


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this question has been split from a discussion in LOS and some of the factual comments copied here.
 
It was a coroners court, not a law court.

Coroners court are strange places with a mix of the absurd and the formal. Many of the current coroners have simply 'inherited' the title and have no forensic or specialised knowledge.

I remember ones where the Gardai had to go out on the streets before hand to round up enough members of the jury to make up the quorum.

Because there was no evidence of a crime, effectively what difference does it make what is put on the death cert?
 
It was a coroners court, not a law court.

Coroners court are strange places with a mix of the absurd and the formal. Many of the current coroners have simply 'inherited' the title and have no forensic or specialised knowledge.

Vanilla

Thanks for explaining that. I was wondering how a court which should be evidence-based could arrive at such a conclusion.

So who gets the jobs as coroners? Solicitors? Doctors? Anyone?
 
The following well written extract comes from that document:

So it seems that a coroner has to be a doctor or a laywer and can not be a forensic scientist.
 
AFAIK the majority are GPs, with the rest solicitors. A coroner can have a deputy and I believe many deputies end up as 'acting' coroner, thus effectively inheriting the position. A reform has been proposed for some some time but not yet put in place.

I suppose an argument could be made that the coroner is really just an administrative figurehead and hears the evidence of witnesses plus the state pathologist etc and therefore doesnt need specialist knowledge in themselves but they do tend to direct the jury towards a verdict. I know from personal knowledge that many of the jury members are the same old people, available to go to the coroners court, retired people etc and are used to the routine.
 
Is it not the case that they are also experienced in the hearing of such tragic cases and like many a District Court Judge, can cut through the sometimes emotive testimony to get at the facts behind it?

There seems to be a movement supportive of acedemia at the moment that gives the impression that qualifications eclipse judgement.

This is tengental to the thread about spontaneous human combustion, isn't it?
 
This question has been split from a discussion in LOS and some of the factual comments copied here.

Yes, this thread is about the workings of the coroners service and the qualifications of coroners.

Coroners Service from CitizensAdvice.ie

 
I'd prefer to see a thread addressing the evidence as opposed to going down a road that smacks of being an ad hominem attack by other methods -

"The coronor isn't competent".

For example, in the OP -

"Was there no pathologists report? What did it say?"

That having been said I'm happy to support this thread about the coroner's job - a position I know little enough about
 
This is a very important piece of information Ajay - thanks.
Its cold comfort to find out EU regulations prohibited these blinds since 2009.

Even that doesn't address the issue of cord-operated blinds that are already installed from before that date.
I was in a house yesterday that still had single glazed metal windows and cord operated venetian-style blinds from the 1960's.

Given that the coroner's office deals with fatalities - and whether you agree with his findings or not - I am forming the opinion that the results of inquests be fast-tracked to some sort of fact-crunching committee which advises the Minster for Justice and/or the Oireachtas on bringing forward new laws for our protection.

At the moment, we have a documented investigation and feedback system, but nowhere to transmit this information for in a mandatory way to close the feedback loop and result in effective action.