Has anyone used Goldcore for investment advice?

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Has anyone used GoldCore for investment advice? If so, would you recommend them?

Are they classed as a low-cost fee-based broker?

Thanks in advance
 
I would recommend them, I own gold through them and thought about investing in a fund but didn't as the ones they were pushing were very long term, i found them to be a very clued in outfit however, very professional, far as i know, Constantine Guirdieve is now working for them in some capacity.
 
Thanks Farmerette. Is their primary focus on gold investment or do they offer comprehensive advice? Also, regarding their charging structure, are they low-cost?
 
Goldcore sold its Wealth Management dept in July 2015 in a management buyout
 
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Thanks Marc.

Considering the average investment figure mentioned above, do you cater for clients with a five-figure sum to invest? Also, considering the potential collapse of the euro, would it be possible to invest in funds of another denomination (the obvious disadvantage being the inherent FX risk) or at least euro denominated of a stable eurozone state such as Germany?
 
Goldcore sold its Wealth Management dept in July 2015 in a management buyout
 
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With the exception of a pension /PRSA fund, how liquid would these funds be for someone who wants to get out of cash but may need access to funds?

Thanks again
 
Goldcore sold its Wealth Management dept in July 2015 in a management buyout
 
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Hi Marc

I don't fully understand this. If I say to you that I have €1m to invest in a fund, I can understand that you might set up a fund for me and charge me €15,000 for doing so and that would be a lot cheaper than the initial charges and ongoing mangement charges of the life companies.

But let's say I go to you saying - I have €500k in cash, €500k in an Irish Life fund, €500k in self administered pension fund and a few properties and a few mortgages and I want a general review of my finances. How do you charge for this service which may or may not lead to investing in one of your funds?
 
Hi Brendan,

I'll let Marc reply to your second question, but your first point is interesting and worth discussing further in relation to charges.

I am also trying to get a handle on what the initial and ongoing charges would be if I setup a portfolio with goldcore. (Can I firstly say they deserve great credit for listing their charges on their website so you can get an idea of the cost).

Let's pretend I have 100k to invest, from what I can see it would work out as follows:

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Initial Setup Cost
3% / €3000

Annual Costs
0.74% (goldcore review + balancing)
0.48% (underlying fund charges)
= 1.3% per year

While this is cheap compared to the unknown total cost of going down the life company route (anything between 1.5% and 3% from various bits of reading) it should be also compared to a simiar service available in the US where the cost is a nice 0.25%:

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(They have an eye opening graph showing the impact of 0.25% Vs 1.0% annual fees over 10 years showing showing 100k of additonal cost assuming 1M fund with 7% growth)

So costs still matter, GoldCore I think are ahead of the game in Ireland for their approach and transparency but I still feel their ongoing costs are too high.

I would welcome a debate on the need for ongoing management of a fund on an annual basis once it has been setup and you have set your own rebalancing rules.
 
Goldcore sold its Wealth Management dept in July 2015 in a management buyout
 
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The above-mentioned charge of €2000+VAT (in bold & italics) equates to approx. 5% of a €50,000 investment.

Does this represent good value? Would appreciate some opinions
 
For clarification we have two distinct services here which are being mixed up.

We offer a financial planning service which looks at financial goals and objectives, risk assessment of income replacement and life assurance, pension provision, financial management looking at budgeting and lifetime cash flows, tax planning, Investment planning, debt management, estate planning and philanthropy. The fee for this is independent of the fee charged for an investment portfolio. However, we typically offset financial planning fees against portfolio implementation fees.

We also offer a stand alone portfolio service with fees starting at 2.5% rather than the 5% stated in the post above.

Equally, where we charge a planning fee and the client uses our portfolios we give a credit for the planning fee already charged so most clients do not pay both fees but rather just the implementation fee.

Hopefully that clears up that misunderstanding.
 
I am more confused than ever now Marc.

Is this explained on your website. If someone goes in for a general financial planning service, what is the fee? I presume you charge an hourly rate lilke other professionals? If so, what is that rate?
 
Brendan,

No we tend to charge a fixed fee so that there is total clarity about what a job will cost. With an hourly fee this is not possible.

However, where we do work on an hourly fee basis, our fees are as follows:

Head of Department - €300 - €400 per hour
Adviser / Technical Assistant - €150 - €250 per hour
Para planner / Technical support - €100 - €200 per hour
Personal Assistant / Business co-coordinator - €50 - €100 per hour
 
Could you clarify your post above please Marc.

What's the difference between the financial planning service and stand alone portfolio service?
Is the former priced at €2000+VAT?
If only certain aspects of the financial planning service were applicable, would a reduced rate apply?
 
The stand alone portfolio service relates to those investors who simply wish to purchase a portfolio of investments. For many prospective clients this will be offered by our network of strategic partners. These are a select group of independent financial advisers who share our philosophy of doing what is best for the client.

The financial planning service tends to be more appropriate for those with more complex financial affairs so recently we have incorporated businesses as limited companies in order to be able to avail of the more favourable tax treatment.

Another popular area is Approved Retirement Fund ARF drawdown strategies or estate planning strategies.

We don't tend to offer a transactional based service for someone who wanted to arrange a mortgage for example. Although if as part of the plan an insurance policy is called for we can arrange it but it isn't our sole reason for being in business if that makes sense. We are not a traditional product broker.

The way we describe it is that we provide what the client needs rather than what they think they need.



I hope that clarifies the position.
 
The way we describe it is that we provide what the client needs rather than what they think they need.

This could be perceived as arrogance. Or a somewhat patronising belief that your investment decisions are invariably going to be better than those of a mere client.


From reading this and other posts here on Askaboutmoney.com, it occurs to me that you seem quite fond of a small number of financial fund providers e.g. Dimensional & Vanguard. These cannot be accessed easily by an Irish retail investor anywhere outside of Goldcore.

So is it fair to say that a client pays from €2,000 + VAT for a financial planning service and then the investment recommendations within the financial plan will tend to be steering him into funds that he can only then buy from Goldcore at additional cost?
 
Goldcore sold its Wealth Management dept in July 2015 in a management buyout
 
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