Greenloan pilot scheme for making house energy efficient

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There is a pilot scheme being run in Mayo for making houses more energy efficient. Three upgrade packages, which are discounted by 40% and then also qualifying for a grant.

Full details to be found at:

http://www.greenloan.ie

Edited extract:

There are 3 options under the Greenloan Phase I pilot scheme for
homeowners to upgrade their homes. These upgrades are specifically
designed to achieve maximum benefit. This information the scheme
provides on the benefits achieved for homeowners will be used to help
formulate the national Home Energy Savers Scheme from Jan 2009 as
announced by the Minister.

The 3 options are:
Option 1 – Insulation, Boiler & Solar Upgrade (installed cost 15.5k and 2k grant available)
Option 2 – Insulation & Boiler Upgrade (installed cost 7.7k and 1.4k grant available)
Option 3 – Insulation & Solar Upgrade (installed cost 9.7k and 2k grant available)

Option 1 – Insulation, Boiler & Solar Upgrade
This upgrade is designed to completely renovate your homes energy
systems. It provides significant changes to how your home operates all
year round. It includes a full attic insulation upgrade, a cavity wall
insulation upgrade, a new wood pellet boiler, a new solar hot water
cylinder, a new solar hot water system and a SMART electricity monitor.
(Please see the case study’s for details on how this is designed to impact on
your home.)

Option 2 – Insulation & Boiler Upgrade.
This upgrade is designed to provide a substantial change to how your
home operates using its boiler. A change of fuel type will half fuel bills
immediately. It includes a highly insulated solar hot water cylinder to
remove the use of immersion, kettle and electric showers for hot water.
It includes a full attic insulation upgrade, a cavity wall insulation
upgrade, a new wood pellet boiler, a new solar hot water cylinder (highly
insulated) and a SMART electricity monitor.
(Please see the case study’s for details on how this is designed to impact on
your home.)

Option 3 – Insulation & Solar Upgrade.
This upgrade is designed to provide a substantial change to how your
home operates using domestic hot water and electrical usage of the
immersion, kettle and electric shower. It includes a full attic insulation
upgrade, a cavity wall insulation upgrade, a new wood pellet boiler, a
new solar hot water cylinder (highly insulated) and a SMART electricity
monitor.
(Please see the case study’s for details on how this is designed to impact on
your home.)


My questions:
1. (Main question). Do these seem like a good deal in terms of the price as compared with getting it done on the open market?

2. Do these measures seem like the way to go or is that a whole other set of topics?
 
Those prices seam reasonable IMO.

I am buying my solar kit from Germany for 3.5k (still need to fit it), my woodchip boiler is 9k but that includes a silo. Without a silo I believe its around 7k so the prices soon add up.

I could go cheaper but this is fairly high end gear.
 
krissovo said:
Those prices seam reasonable IMO.

I am buying my solar kit from Germany for 3.5k (still need to fit it), my woodchip boiler is 9k but that includes a silo. Without a silo I believe its around 7k so the prices soon add up.

I could go cheaper but this is fairly high end gear.
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Hi, Is it flat plate/vacuated flat plate or tube solar panels you are importing from Germany? How many sq mtrs? We got German solar panels from an Irish supplier and are not at all happy with there performance, though my brother has and his are ok. You should also bring in a DHW tank, hugh savings. Ours cost us 2300 euro and when it arrived direct from Germany there was a price tag on it of 1000 euro!!!

Can you post or pm me what wood chip boiler you are installing? Are you importing this yourself? Or buying here?
optimistic
 
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Hi The solar unit I am importing is a 10.2 sq/m flat panel system. Its come with 500l tank, expansion tank etc. The prices start from 1k http://bad24.com/ .

Woodchip boiler is a re-badged Kedco unit that comes with a silo.
 
Thanks for the reply Krissovo.

More details:

The solar system uses either a solar flat plate system or solar vacuum system supplied by Surface Power Ltd, together with a highly insulated hot water cylinder.

The wood pellet boiler is supplied by the same company.

The wall insulation is EcoPearl from Gilmartin Group.

The attic insulation is 250 or 300 fibreglass.

All supplied and installed, together with a smart meter.

Does that sound OK for the money involved?
 
Just the hot water.

Thanks for the answers.

Apparently the wall and attic insulation would be about 3k on its own.

So that would mean I am paying 10.5k for boiler, solar system and smart meter.

Guess that seems OK assuming that is the system to go for....
 
Am now thinking of going for the option without the boiler. I can always get the woodchip in later if and when the technology becomes bog-standard and everyone can agree that its the way to go.

I guess the boiler is only going to cost me 6k more, but I am not altogether convinced it is the way to go, and also, for family reasons, I don't want any disruption to my heating in november.

If I can get my insulation (which would cost me 3k) + the hot water system for 9.7k with 2k back, I think that's a pretty good deal. It means the hot water system is costing me 4.7k, with the smart meter thrown in.

My roof is big and south facing, and maybe I can add a photovoltaic system in the future to generate electricity, if and when that technology is cheaper and / or grant aided, and selling surplus back to the grid is possible.

Any further thoughts?
 
Hmmm, its almost make your mind up time on this scheme, and I am having BIG doubts.

According to this article, it doesnt make economic sense:

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I can expect to use 3500 units of electricity on hot water pa.

That's about 630 euro I think.

If this HW system costs me 5k, then that's 8 years just to break even! and that is ignoring any running costs + the hassle + servicing if any.

And its only guaranteed for 5 years.

Even allowing for rising ESB costs over the next few years, I don't think this makes much sense.

I think I will focus my energies, attention and capital elsewhere, and wait for the price of these systems to come down, or better grants, or both.


Any thoughts?
 
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