Gerry and BBC Case

JoeRoberts

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Regardless that the broadcast could be viewed in Roi, seems strange that the case could be brought in Dublin, AFAIK the BBC have no legal presence in Roi. If they just refuse to pay, how could a Dublin court compel them to pay ?
 

This "ROI" nonsense annoys me intensely. It's bad enough that a foreign broadcaster is allowed to perpetrate this on-going insult against a sovereign, independent, democratic state, by deliberately mis-naming it in its broadcasts and publications, but when we do it to ourselves it needs to be challenged as it shows what little national pride we have.

For those of you who don't know or who are too lazy to find out, the "CONSTITUTION OF IRELAND" states:

"ARTICLE 4​

The name of the State is Éire, or, in the English language, Ireland."


Any questions or doubts, PM me.






 
I am presuming your tongue is firmly in your cheek. For this is the official position:


But to get back on topic, why was the ROI chosen instead of the Six Counties for this case?
The less worrying reason would be that our defamation laws are ludicrously tilted against the media.
More worrying would be that they would have a better chance of getting 12 gppd men and true with at least a tacit understanding (if not support) for what Saint Gerry had to put up with.
Anyway in the words of Matt McCarthy the vindication conforms that "Gerry was a legend, is a legend and always will be a legend".
A good day for the reputation of the ROI? Answers on a postcard please.
And another thing, how come Gerry is in a position to take a three million euro punt?
 
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But why did the BBC even answer the charge in Dublin. Could they not have ignored it and say "come and take the case in Belfast where we are based"?
 
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But why did the BBC even answer the charge in Dublin. Could they not have ignored it and say come and take the case in Belfast where we are based?
A good question:
 
take the case in Belfast where we are based?
Jeeze, @JoeRoberts I didn't realise you were the actual BBC or is that the royal "we" you are using?

Why take the case in Dublin and answer it there? It seems that a fair number of the BBC team are Irish citizens, may I think be the answer to both questions posed.
 
Maybe it is that jury defamation cases have been disallowed in the UK.
The BBC were silly to defend this case. "Was he in the IRA?" was somewhat irrelevant. As Sam McBride reports, Grisly could easily argue that it is his reputation after the GFA that was at stake. At least I think that was how the judge summed it up.
I don't think the media can have it both ways - let anonymous sources make allegations and then cite press omerta not to reveal the sources.
 
But why did the BBC even answer the charge in Dublin. Could they not have ignored it and say "come and take the case in Belfast where we are based"?
Strange that your first thought was they could have ignored it. If the program was made in good faith why would they seek to ignore the case?
 
JoeRoberts,
The BBC broadcast the program in the Republic Of Ireland in the jurisdiction of the Dublin Courts,
If the did not show up/Ignored the Court what do you think the outcome would be,
 
Joe
Good Question,
Seeing the did turn up, forgetting about the 100.000 for a moment, seeing the lost the Court case if cost are awarded against them do you think the should pay cost,
The question I would like to see an answer to, is if cost are awarded against BBC if they refuse to pay cost can it be enforced,
Do you know if they are going to appeal decision,
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I see The Irish Times has a piece BBC MUST PAY 50,000 Euro and 250,000legal cost pending an appeal,
not the exact words if BBC want a further stay on payment pending any appeal the judge said this would have to be sought from the Court of Appeal,
Is this new when you want to appeal a decision that went against a party in Court you have to pay some Compensation before appeal can be heard,
what if you win the appeal happens to the 50,000,do you get it repaid back,
 
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Seeing the did turn up, forgetting about the 100.000 for a moment, seeing the lost the Court case if cost are awarded against them do you think the should pay cost,
I have no view as to whether they should pay. My only thoughts are that they were foolish to have ever engaged with a very expensive jury case in the Dublin courts that was always likely to go against them. If they ignored it, then the case may have been brought in NI which they may have had a cheaper and better result.
 
We all know this.
Good, then that's what we should all say.

If you replace Roi with Ireland in the 1st post it would make no sense.
Yes it would. We'd all know that it was referring to this country.
Could always change to The Free State if that works better for you.
The free State ceased to exist in December 1937 when Ireland became a country rather than a dominion of the British Empire.