Beards?Hate to disagree, standards have been slipping for years, height, weight, beards and what's next hand and face tats? They look unprofessional and messy. No place in a professional police force.
Seems it's not unusual for trainees to leave temporarily to have visible tattoos removed. He had one on his neck removed, so he was aware of the rules. This individual may well make a super Garda, but part of me also wonders whether we really need another who thinks the rules don't apply to them.As he says, he went through 18 months of interviews etc. with a highly visible tattoo on his hand and no one objected then. He is now left with no job
Seems it's not unusual for trainees to leave temporarily to have visible tattoos removed.
We only know one side of the story, why did he think it would be acceptable to wear a glove at all times when there are strict rules on uniform? Did he try to hide it or tell them he was going to have it removed? He knew the rules, so why didn't he have it removed prior to applying when we was in his previous employment?But as it says in that article, that will take up to a year and with laser treatment being so costly and him out of a job not much chance of that happening. They should have sorted it while he was going through the interview process which the article says took about 18 months which included multiple assessments and interviews.
Agreed.With the stress and risks involved in the job, the money starting off is low I don't know why anyone would go for it.
We only know one side of the story, why did he think it would be acceptable to wear a glove at all times when there are strict rules on uniform?
All other tattoos will be covered at all times while on duty, whether in uniform or plain clothes."
So unless he was planning to wear a glove
Hate to disagree, standards have been slipping for years, height, weight, beards and what's next hand and face tats? They look unprofessional and messy. No place in a professional police force.
I think there are big benefits to having members of the force who reflect the population they serve, especially community gardaí. If you have a tattoo and you see a garda with a tattoo you might be more likely to see them as a human being, listen to them, and treat them with respect. That's how you prevent and deal with crime on a local level. And if tattoos are more common in a particular part of Dublin then these rules might stop someone from that area from joining the gardaí - big missed opportunity.I really do not like tattoos at all. I do not believe that professional people should have visible tattoos in any profession.
I hate them on sports people too by the way. My opinion, of course .
This is exactly it - we are demanding more gardaí on the streets risking their lives to protect us but apparently only if they have unblemished skin...! We should not be putting up arbitrary and (literally) superficial barriers to anyone willing to serve their country.You stated you believe we should have more prisons and more prisoners to deal with the Gotham style thuggery on the streets (your words not mine) but you don't want the gardai dealing with such thuggery to have a tattoo on their hand!
If the rules are ridiculous I would prefer a garda who has the brains and nerve to challenge them.Seems it's not unusual for trainees to leave temporarily to have visible tattoos removed. He had one on his neck removed, so he was aware of the rules. This individual may well make a super Garda, but part of me also wonders whether we really need another who thinks the rules don't apply to them.
Apart from (some people) not liking the appearance of tattoos in what way are they 2nd best?Settling for second best is not something I
ever entertain/ed, that culture of "shur it'll do " is now pretty much rooted in the Irish psyche, its a cancer of laziness and second/third best will do that's reduced numerous civil/public service depts to barely functioning.
Some Gardai think they own the road and can do what they like endangering members of the public in the process, others think that it's OK to harass or beat minorities, some even think it's OK to collude with serious criminals. I'd prefer Gardai who understood authority and the chain of command and didn't pick and choose what rules applied to them.If the rules are ridiculous I would prefer a garda who has the brains and nerve to challenge them.
He was aware of the rules but wasn't aware that they stipulate only Garda issue black leather gloves can be worn on the hands and then only in prescribed situations.'It was on this basis that he believed he would be complying with the code if he were to wear a cover on his hand while on duty, hiding the image'
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