It doesn't tell you how many of those kids had to get grinds to compensate for bad teaching. It also doesn't take into account the ability of the parents to help those kids with homework and revision.3rd level could mean anything these days really with all the options out there. What I liked about the IT supplement however was that it listed (on the 3rd page) the number of students from each school who went to each college.
There are good and bad teachers in every school. God knows we had plenty in my school and the less than 10% of students who have gone to university every year since the 80s are testament to this. I would imagine there is a higher scrutiny on teachers in private schools given that parents are paying fees though.It doesn't tell you how many of those kids had to get grinds to compensate for bad teaching.
I agree. I think a lot of parents could do better when it comes to helping their kids with education as it's not just the school's job.It also doesn't take into account the ability of the parents to help those kids with homework and revision.
I agree however if 90% of students from school A go to university whilst only 5% go from school B, all things considered, I think I'd know which one I would hedge my bets with!Basically there is more to it than just the school.
Your school was completely different to mine in that caseThere are good and bad teachers in every school.
I think this is absolutely key. I am from rural Ireland - my father is a farmer, my mother was a teacher. A large number of my aunts & uncles on both sides went to university and were involved in education in some shape or form - which was unusual given you are talking about 1960's/1970's rural Ireland. Education always was a focus of our youth (mid 80's early 90's), whether we liked it or not, and many a dispute arose when Dad wanted us to help on the farm and Mam wanted us to study. Mam mostly won!I think a lot of parents could do better when it comes to helping their kids with education as it's not just the school's job.
I agree however if 90% of students from school A go to university whilst only 5% go from school B, all things considered, I think I'd know which one I would hedge my bets with!
Very true. One thing though, there are children in both of my children's classes who are from the middle east and are flying with their Irish.While it is easy to say that parents should support their children's education it's hard for parents who are functionally illiterate to help their children with reading.
I really couldn't agree more. I think the over-subscribed schools are over-subscribed precisely because of this...parents want to send their children there as doing well and excelling is normal.There are basically two types of schools. There are the ones where you get slagged for doing your homework and the ones where you don't get slagged for doing your homework.
The other challenge for the student is having like minded students to interact with, and create a sense of competition between the group.
So a school with a "good" catchment area or, failing that, a fee paying school or a Gaelscoil.The parents in a lot of cases would like to send their children to a school where they believe they will mix with children from a similar background.
So a school with a "good" catchment area or, failing that, a fee paying school or a Gaelscoil.
I'm not knocking Newpark, I'm sure it is a fine school and does a fine job educating young people, but I'd say they get more money from raffles, Christmas Fairs, Cake Sales etc than Killinarden Community School.
I seriously doubt it!Schools in disadvantaged areas get additional state funding, so perhaps Newpark needs the raffle money etc. to keep up with Killinarden.
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