The neighbour is really touchy about it and does not want any extra height.
Thanks. That would be my inclination, as a courtesy. But it's very odd. They saw us looking at the area of the wall which is particularly low with a measuring tape and started shouting that it was theirs before storming off. No issues before that with them. There are the remains of a wall-topping fence (a few broken support poles) attached to the wall from our side, so it looks like there has been a privacy screen before. But the owners from that time are not contactable. I'm baffled because they lose out on privacy at the moment as well.If relations are sour now they'll be absolutely bitter when you build a wall without the neighbour's agreement, even if it's on your side.
I'd try to negotiate this as far as you can (assuming you haven't).
It then raises the question of cutting the hedge: if I put it against their wall will I need to offer to come onto their property to maintain it?
True. I was thinking of planting it a bit back from the wall so I could access it to cut it - so no complaint from them. The advantage is that I could go >2m in height. Because their ground is about a foot raised over mine, a 2m fence won’t quite do the trick.messy! ... and annually
I'd be looking at a fence myself.
This is far more complicated than it seemed originally.
It then raises the question of cutting the hedge: if I put it against their wall will I need to offer to come onto their property to maintain it?
Also, just been told that if I’m sinking posts for my fence I need to keep back from the wall in case I rupture the foundation footing. It’s a retainer wall so that could be 1.5 feet
For argument's sake, do they have a right to paint our side of their wall, and seek access to do that?
Why not think outside the box and do something with hoarding? It could look good too:
https://www.bloknmesh.ie/blockade-hoarding-system/
Keep the ugly side to the back!
That's interesting about using top soil to increase the height on my side. Am I right in thinking one can increase the level by 1m without planning permission? But - as far as I know, the 2m height restriction on a fence must be from unaltered ground level. Any advice on that would be welcome!Metal palisade or security fencing would require planning permission.
Do a little exploratory digging and establish where this is. If it's their wall it should not be encroaching on your property.
If you have the space to use concrete h-posts on your side of the boundary, these could be perfect. The fencing penels retained between the posts can be lifted out pretty easily to facilitate maintenance of their wall, or painting of the fence panel itself.
To address the height issue, you could import some topsoil to build up the ground level on your side closer to theirs.
The Land And Conveyancing Law Reform Act 2009 entitles them to access to maintain such structures, and also seek a Works Orders via the courts for access to your property if you refuse to cooperate.
Am I right in thinking one can increase the level by 1m without planning permission? But - as far as I know, the 2m height restriction on a fence must be from unaltered ground level.
The most likely interpretation from the planning authority, or An Bord Pleanála on referral, is likely to be that the height of the structure cannot exceed 2m when measured from the ground level outside the site
I was also exploring putting up a 2m fence and getting the extra 0.4m I need to get complete privacy by adding some plants/hedging that could attach safely to the top of the fence.
That's great advice about the weight of the wet soil...possibly eliminates it as an option.There are no res
You are permitted to landscape and alter ground levels within your garden. It's safe to assume that the ground levels in both gardens has been altered in the past, retaining walls are generally only required when making such alterations.
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You mean like attaching a planter / tray of some description toward the top of the fence? That'd seriously up the structural requirements of the fence to hold that weight of soil when wet.
I think that's what matters - the height, not inside/outside the site..
That would fix my situation. A 2.4m fence on my side - 2m as measured from their side - gets me the privacy I need. If it was objected to, it would be nice to think that the planning authority would look sympathetically on it.My reading of that case is what mattered was how it looked from outside, as that's what impacts on others.
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