emergency tax query

[sunnywalk]

hi
hoping someone can help. my husband has just gone back to work a few weeks. he is being paid weekly. he got his first two payslip and he is paying emergency tax. He has handed in his PPS number.
He has not worked since 2008 and in his first year unemployed he got jobseekers benefit fro around 40 weeks.. he did not qualify for jobseekers allowance .. so has not being getting any social welfare at all since 2009. He has been signing on for credits once a year... he doesnt have a p45 from his last job as i think he gave that to social welfare office..
How does he get a p45 to give to his new employers? or does he need to get a tax cert? he hasnt recieved this since he was working?? does he need to fill 12a form again ... really not sure what to do so hope someone can help..

thanks

 

[WindUp]

yes---just complete form 12a

 

[Mrs Vimes]

Your husband should ask the payroll person for the employer's number and ring Revenue, they'll be able to sort it out more quickly that way (payroll person could ring themselves, but Revenue will need to ask about split of credits between the two of you.)

Assuming you are using most of the tax credits he will be paying quite a lot of tax anyway.

Sybil

 

[mandelbrot]

Your husband should ask the payroll person for the employer's number and ring Revenue, they'll be able to sort it out more quickly that way (payroll person could ring themselves, but Revenue will need to ask about split of credits between the two of you.)

Assuming you are using most of the tax credits he will be paying quite a lot of tax anyway.

Sybil

It's not the employee's job to do that, although obviously it may be in their own interest to make sure it gets sorted asap (but some people are just allergic to dealing with Revenue!).

To answer the OP's question the Form P46 is the appropriate form for a new employee is starting without a P45. It's a much shorter & easier form than a Form12a, and can be printed from Revenue.ie.

As for tax credits, by default he'll get the PAYE credit which didn't previously exist in this case (and the non-transferable portion of SRCOP).

 

[thesimpsons]

It's not the employee's job to do that, although obviously it may be in their own interest to make sure it gets sorted asap (but some people are just allergic to dealing with Revenue!).

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why wouldn't it be the employee's job to do this? Its a far faster way to get uptodate credits/cut offs to do this than form filling and waiting for answers etc. We regularly do this on behalf of our new employees and if revenue need to talk to the new employee, then we have them on standby to just hand over the phone. There is no obligation on the employer to obtain this info and employee could be on emergency tax indefinitely until its sorted.

 

[mandelbrot]

It's not the employee's job to do that, although obviously it may be in their own interest to make sure it gets sorted asap (but some people are just allergic to dealing with Revenue!).

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why wouldn't it be the employee's job to do this? Its a far faster way to get uptodate credits/cut offs to do this than form filling and waiting for answers etc. We regularly do this on behalf of our new employees and if revenue need to talk to the new employee, then we have them on standby to just hand over the phone. There is no obligation on the employer to obtain this info and employee could be on emergency tax indefinitely until its sorted.

I take your point, but what I mean is that the onus for operation of the PAYE system is on the employer. The employee is only obliged to give the relevant details to the employer, who can then deal with Revenue re getting a tax credit cert etc.

Im not saying the employee can't or shouldn't phone Revenue themselves if they're comfortable doing so, that's what I'd always advise too, as obviously it is the fastest way, but sometimes the employee may not be comfortable dealing with Revenue themselves, and I'm simply saying the employer can't pass the buck to them in that scenario...