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I was in the newly renovated bar and restaurant in The Ardenode Hotel last week. A group of us were waiting for dinner and I went to the bar and ordered a club orange and a glass of white wine (Pinot Grigio). I was charged E9.25 for both drinks. E2.50 for the orange and E6.75 for the glass of wine. We all agreed that it was an absolute rip off and voiced our opinion to the bar manager. We then cancelled our table and went elsewhere. I've since spoken to several people who also agree that it is way to much for a glass of wine. (The bottle in question was E30). Isn't an average price E4.50 -E5.50??
How so? I can see that some people might consider it a high price but unless the price charged does not match the price list which can be checked before making a purchase then it's not a ripoff. They could charge €100 for a glass of plonk and as long as they said so up front there is still not ripoff.-I would call that a rip-off!
Do you mean increase or display the price? The latter is a statutory requirement under [broken link removed].That Hotel should really put up it's price
Precisely. If the price is displayed (as required under the legislation) then you can't claim to be ripped off if you decide of your own volition to purchase unless they charge a higher price. If you decide to do so without bothering to check the prices first then that's your own problem. Still no ripoff though.as by your logic once you are told up front the price you cant be ripped off!
How so? I can see that some people might consider it a high price but unless the price charged does not match the price list which can be checked before making a purchase then it's not a ripoff. They could charge €100 for a glass of plonk and as long as they said so up front there is still not ripoff.
No it's not. It's a ripoff if the price was not displayed as required by law or was in excess of what was displayed.Of course charging that amount for a glass of wine is a rip-off, by any sensible definition
No it's not! Anybody who enters into a contract to buy something without bothering to check the price first can't claim that they were ripped off when they are eventually charged a price that was clearly displayed for them to check in the first place.the issue of whether or not you were wise enough to study the price list before ordering the wine is an entirely separate matter.
That's calling a spade a fork. To call a spade a spade we might call it a high price. Maybe.Let's call a spade a spade and a rip-off a rip-off!
Totally irrelevant.We all know booze is mark-up heaven for restaurants and hotels, that's where the bulk of their profits come from (that and desserts, apparently!).
I agree. About the walking out bit of the prices were not acceptable to the punter in question. Not about the ripoff bit.Well done for walking out, if a few more followed your example we might be ripped off a little less. And no, my name isn't E Hobbs
a glass of white wine (Pinot Grigio). ....and E6.75 for the glass of wine. We all agreed that it was an absolute rip off and voiced our opinion to the bar manager.
Not enough information to say whether it was a rip off (or more accurately, bad value).
I think the issue with Clubman's comments is that he defines ripoff as trying to essentially steal money from you by charging more than a listed price whereas the vast majority of people define a ripoff as really bad value - 'Ripoff Ireland' generally refers to unnecessarily high prices, not charging more than list price, 'insurance is a ripoff' generally means that people consider the prices quoted to be unnecessarily high not that the insurance company charges you more than they quote. I'm not sure of the exact dictionary definition (not sure that there is one) but given the general acceptance of it meaning unnecessarily expensive, I think it is a bit pedantic of Clubman to wheel out 'what, you were charged more than the listed price?' every time someone tries to have a discussion of something being expensive.
I... whereas the vast majority of people define a ripoff as really bad value ...
I think it is a bit pedantic of Clubman to wheel out 'what, you were charged more than the listed price?' every time someone tries to have a discussion of something being expensive.
As ever....
If the price list said €6.75 (
Simple really.
To dissect the posters comment in such a riducusly anal way is worrying from an administrator IMO it adds nothing to the discussion and is juvenile. It was oblivious to people the point the poster was making.
jdwex said:Not enough information to say whether it was a rip off (or more accurately, bad value).
jake108 said:When I said rip off I actually meant bad value.
Ron Burgundy said:but 3.35 for a diet coke in the four seasons ain't cheap either ( and there was no list of prices in the ballroom, which was open later than the main bar and therefore has a different licence, therefore seperate prices need to be listed )
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