NoRegretsCoyote
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The Metro is an essential part of a bigger public transport future for Dublin. It’s about building a network to facilitate all sorts of journeys, not simple A-B or A-C thinking.There is absolutely no need for a metro.
At best, I think this is short-term thinking. Busconnects is the current dogma when it comes to Dublin's transport problems. But even busconnects own proponents admit that it will, literally, run out of road in a decade or so, and be unable to meet future requirements. So, eventually, we're gonna need a metro. But, in the meantime, for the sake of this flawed busconnects plan, we're going to chop down mature trees, corral cars into fewer and fewer lanes, migrate bus lanes onto footpaths and build 'floating' bus stops between those footpaths and the roadway. Elegant solution it ain't.How long does it take to get into the centre of the city from Dublin Airport by bus?
How long does it take to get to Heuston Station by bus?
There is absolutely no need for a metro.
Brendan
In fairness to DAA, it’s a matter for the airlines as to which airports they wish to use. They’re guided by market demand, scheduling priorities etc.Read my lips:- Some current destinations from Dublin need to be farmed out to other airports and fast.
Ah, you’re wrong Brendan. Business people and tourists can’t be expected to get the bus. This isn’t Calcutta. It’s a farce that we don’t have a Metro or tram or train.How long does it take to get into the centre of the city from Dublin Airport by bus?
How long does it take to get to Heuston Station by bus?
There is absolutely no need for a metro.
Brendan
I was recently heading off for the weekend and decided to get the bus rather than my usual drive + short term car park. It took longer to get from Sandyford to Dublin Airport than Dublin Airport to Germany. Everyone’s circumstances are different depending on where you live but next time I’ll be back in the car. Nothing like arriving home and cruising past the confused tourists looking for the train station and the 90 people in a queue for the taxi rank, into my own car and onto the M50 for a handy 35 minute spin home.Much better than the Metro :
Bus to and from Dublin Airport | Dublin City Centre and Suburbs
Find all the ways you can travel to and from Dublin Airport to Dublin city centre and surrounding areas in Dublin. Over 1000 buses per day.www.dublinairport.com
The buses take people to different places all over Dublin , and the major cities.
Brendan
It took longer to get from Sandyford to Dublin Airport than Dublin Airport to Germany.
Business people and tourists can’t be expected to get the bus.
When they can get them. They tend not to know the ‘Zone 18’ Free Now thing and end up queuing at the rank which can be problematic at times.Business people tend to take taxis I would have thought.
Tourists will take whatever option is the quickest. A bus into town from the airport is quick. Maybe a metro would reduce it by 5 minutes if it were going to the exact spot the tourist wants to go to.
Brendan
‘Zone 18’ Free Now thing
We should have a metro to the airport. It's embarrassing that we don't.
It's a key part of an integrated public transport system. That's the key metric. You don't build one wall of a house and then say it's a waste of money because it won't hold up the roof.Forget about concepts like "everyone else has one" and "it's embarrassing".
What would be the benefit in times to reach the city centre? That is the key metric.
Brendan
In a city the size of Dublin the number of potential journeys rounds to infinity.What would be the benefit in times to reach the city centre? That is the key metric.
It does! 47 km of Metro and as much again being built.This isn’t Calcutta. It’s a farce that we don’t have a Metro or tram or train.
(Calcutta probably has a Metro!)
Ah here, Brendan! Colm McCarthy is on the record as opposing Luas and the Dart. Imagine Dublin now without either.Colm McCarthy: Metro Link figures simply don't add up
I was very suspicious of the need for this Metro Link and I see that Colm McCarthy has challenged the rationale for it. https://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/colm-mccarthy/colm-mccarthy-metro-link-figures-simply-dont-add-up-36615041.html "Departments must ensure that individual...www.askaboutmoney.com
That was 5 years ago. I am sure the cost has gone way up in the meantime.
How come almost every other city of Dublin's size has come to the opposite conclusion? Are they all wrong?I am a huge supporter of public transport and cycling. But the metrolink is a trophy project and a very expensive one at that which will do very little for visitors to Ireland or other road users.
Ah here, Brendan! Colm McCarthy is on the record as opposing Luas and the Dart. Imagine Dublin now without either.
Someone has a decades-long track record (no pun intended) of opposing all rail-based infrastructure for Dublin. Infrastructure which is by now used by hundreds of thousands of people daily and no one would dream of tearing up. I think it's bias and should be called out as such.Deal with the arguments in his article, rather than attacking the author.
On almost every other topic I agree with him and think he's great BTW!
You can use Free Now to be collected at the airport. They meet you in Zone 18. As you come out of T2 Arrivals there’s an outdoor escalator on the left. It’s about 80 metres from the bottom. I just hit Free Now at Customs.What is that?
I wasn't aware of it.
Brendan
How very apt….I just hit Free Now at Customs.
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