Does 1:1 really mean 1:1?

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onekeano

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Just looking at changing ISP and I see Smart and Magnet are offering 1:1 contention ratios? I've heard in the past that this can be misleading and want to be sure of what I am ordering - any advice appreiciated.

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Does this mean that if you are on a 2MB package you will always be able to download at speeds of 2MB?
 
CCOVICH said:
Does this mean that if you are on a 2MB package you will always be able to download at speeds of 2MB?
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well it does, but only if there is 2Mb on the other side serving it out (ie you can download an attachment from aam at 2mb if there is 2mb of free bandwidth on its side)....

ps. its Mb not MB
 
The smart offer is also uncontended - ie: you get the full capacity of your link in both directions at all times.
 
boskonay said:
The smart offer is also uncontended - ie: you get the full capacity of your link in both directions at all times.
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Perhaps. I can't imagine that it would be cost effective for them to offer a truly guaranteed uncontended service. Rather, what I imagine they mean by "uncontended" is that statistically speaking you are likely to receive your full allowance at any time of the day and that they monitor choke points in order that this will happen. However, it would not be possible for all of their customers to use their full allowance simultaneously.
 
As I understand it, it depends on whether it is ADSL or ADSL2. ADSL2 is uncontended, ADSL is not. I have an ADSL package from Magnet (previously Netsource). So it is possible to get both packages from Magnet.

Whether you get ADSL or ADSL2 depends on, as usual, the state of the local exchange. ADSL2 has a greater range, up to 10km from the exchange (as opposed to 5km for ADSL) so even if your house was too far distant for ADSL previously, it might be reachable with ADSL2.

ADSL2 also supports up to 8M download speeds.
 
yoganmahew said:
As I understand it, it depends on whether it is ADSL or ADSL2. ADSL2 is uncontended, ADSL is not. I have an ADSL package from Magnet (previously Netsource). So it is possible to get both packages from Magnet.

Whether you get ADSL or ADSL2 depends on, as usual, the state of the local exchange. ADSL2 has a greater range, up to 10km from the exchange (as opposed to 5km for ADSL) so even if your house was too far distant for ADSL previously, it might be reachable with ADSL2.

ADSL2 also supports up to 8M download speeds.
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As far as I know, if they are offering ADSL2 it is their own service, hence "uncontended" but if it is ADSL then they are simply reselling eircom's product. Your distance to the exchange is immaterial, they either offer their own service there or not.
 
Both smart and magnet offer adsl2 on their own fiber networks - which is a good as it gets in terms of not depending on eircom capacity.
 
boskonay said:
Both smart and magnet offer adsl2 on their own fiber networks - which is a good as it gets in terms of not depending on eircom capacity.
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True, but coverage of their own product is far from %100, the rest being supplied by resale of eircom wholesale (bitstream) DSL. I assume that neither company turns customers away if they cannot supply their own LLU product?
 
bankrupt said:
True, but coverage of their own product is far from %100, the rest being supplied by resale of eircom wholesale (bitstream) DSL. I assume that neither company turns customers away if they cannot supply their own LLU product?
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I don't think either do non-LLU.....
 
1:1 means that one customer of for example 2Mbs is served with exactly 2Mbs of network capacity. 40:1 means that fourty customers of for example 2 Mbs, are served with exactly 2 Mbs of network capacity to share between them. This has nothing to do with upload or download 'speed' or bandwidth. ADSL is asynchronous (the A in ADSL), this means that there is more bandwidth available in one direction than the other (upload Vs. download). High contention ratios leave the user with unpredictable service. With 1:1 you know what youre paying for but youre probably wasting it. Lauren
 
Lauren86 said:
1:1 means that one customer of for example 2Mbs is served with exactly 2Mbs of network capacity. 40:1 means that fourty customers of for example 2 Mbs, are served with exactly 2 Mbs of network capacity to share between them. This has nothing to do with upload or download 'speed' or bandwidth. ADSL is asynchronous (the A in ADSL), this means that there is more bandwidth available in one direction than the other (upload Vs. download). High contention ratios leave the user with unpredictable service. With 1:1 you know what youre paying for but youre probably wasting it. Lauren
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Nice post but don't think anyone was really asking anything you answered.
 
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