Did the state ever make someone redundant ?

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Just wondering, does the concept of "being made redundant" exist in the public sector ?

Is a state job always a "job for life"

Obviously in the private sector, if an employee is not making a positive financial contribution to the organisation, he/she will probably not survive.

The criteria in the public sector is probably different though. Can anyone give examples of public sector entities who made people redundant.

Under what criteria would someone be made redundant in the public sector ?
If an employee was not performing well in the public sector, would they be made redundant ?
 
Temporary staff may not have contracts renewed - nothing to do with them personally, more to do with cutting numbers.

Edit: Just to clarify, temporary staff might have been in the job for several years, rather than a true "temp" position.
 
In the HSE it's called abolition of office. I am aware of 2 CEO's under the old health board stucture that this applied to. Not sure what they got but there was some added years.
 
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I was assuming that the original poster meant "fired".
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I meant "made redundant" in a nice way, rather than "fired".

"fired" has negative conatations.

I meant "made redundant" in the sense of moving state jobs to low cost countries (to save the taxpayers money), similar to what happens in the private sector global economy. This would necessitate redundancies.

Or someone who was a nice person, but wasn't quite pulling his/her weight.

I don't recall ever phoning a state department, and being answered by someone in Bangalore, maybe state departments can't off-shore unlike private companies.....
 
LouisCribben said:
Does the concept of "being made redundant" exist in the public sector ?
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The answer to this question is yes.

Thousands of workers in the public sector have been made redundant over the last 20 years. Mostly in the commercial semi state sector ESB, Bord na Mona, Bord Gais etc.

Perhaps you mean the public service?

Does the public sector outsource work to the Indian Subcontinent?

Again the answer is yes I recall some departments sending maps to india to be digitised and also I think old Dail proceedings were digitised abroad.

Some parts of the public sector have been privatised Aer Lingus, Eircom and now in the near future VHI.
 
LouisCribben said:
Can anyone give examples of public sector entities who made people redundant.

Under what criteria would someone be made redundant in the public sector ?
If an employee was not performing well in the public sector, would they be made redundant ?
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If you are genuinely interested in learning more about this area, you need to understand the difference between redundancy and other forms of termination. Redundancy has nothing to do with the performance of the person. Redundancy occurs when the work done by that post is no longer required.
 
Workers are made redundant in circumstances when the work they have been doing is no longer required.

Termination of employment can occur for a varity of reasons, including that of redundancy.
 
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Redundancy occurs when the work done by that post is no longer required.
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For example there was a case in the Dept of Agriculture and Food when a grant scheme was stopped making the job a significant number of staff there were doing redundant.

I can't remember what the resolution was in that case. I remember at the time talk of retraining to reduce the backlog on driving tests.
 
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