Demolish and rebuild a wall in new build, possible???


If you lift the carpet in an upstairs room you will find some sort of flooring underneath.If the floor consists of boards about 4" wide, they are the floor boards. The boards are nailed to joists which run at rightangles to the boards. If the boards run in line with the wall, then the joists run onto the wall. If this is the case, then the joists are supported by the wall so if the wall is removed, there is no support for the joists and hence the floor will collapse.

An RSJ is a rolled steel joist or girder.
 
ok,a steel beam would be used to carry the load if wall is load bearing. so if wall taken away the steel would take the weight of what the wall was holding.billk is correct with what he says (last post!!)
its usually a straight forward job. describe the house to me mid terr.semi?? what is the width of house??
 
Hi,

I dont the widht of the house....widht of that wall is around 3 meter...and its a 2nd flour duplex...

Bilk i dont know abt the boards...Its a recent-build house. I havent the keys yet of the house...So isnt may be possible to check before january. Then hopefully i will get the keys....

S. carpenter: i have a picture of that wall if u want...Kitchenunits are fitted at that wall...i will try to send that picture in pm.

I have just had a look at the pictures which i have of the house and the rooms. I can see that floorboard, but dont really understand what BILK is meaning. Maybe u want to have a look at the pictures?? Let me know then.

Thanks alot for your help all!!!
 
usually if a house is 4.8m or less the walls are not load bearing as the joist are supported by the side walls of house.
 

I agree that experienced contractors can offer comment on small works.
The difficulty is knowing who are experienced and who are waffling.
The OP needs qualified, competent advice re structural work.
A chartered engineer is qualified to give such advice.
A competent builder may also be needed to open up.



Just don't become beholden to one builder.

ONQ.
 
s.carpenter said:
usually if a house is 4.8m or less the walls are not load bearing as the joist are supported by the side walls of house.
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This is not a useful assumption in a two storey house, especially where there is a dividing wall separating the front room from the rear and where there is a hall to the side with a stairs in it. Even where the joists are physically continuous the hall wall/stud may be helping to support the floor.

ONQ.
 
i did say usually ONQ. a wall doesnt help,it either holds a load or doesnt!! anyway after pm the person i know the house estate and the wall is a stud. its supports nothing. so is a easy job to take away they were pleased to know
although always be sure the contractor has insurance and has experance in this sort of of work. ask to see insurance proof. best to be safe
 
to they also give a insurance certificate? or any other safety? That they take the responsibility of the work?

And such work (removing wall) do builders? or anyone else? who i will i call for it?

S.carpenter u can come to take a look at house as i told u before, after getting the keys
 
s.carpenter said:
i did say usually ONQ. a wall doesnt help,it either holds a load or doesnt!!
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I've seen instances where the floor above was clear span and the joists were so well specified that they could support the bare floor easily without the load bearing stud we designed with the engineer. The floor was not capable of taking the design live and imposed loads without additional support.

Do you carry insurance and what experience do you have in this type of work? Why not post a link to your website here s.carpenter?

ONQ.
 
sure i have insurance. i worked for one of biggest builders in dublin for 8 years and many other contracters before that. building both private and state housing. now i have my own business. do anyting from attic conversions to wardrobes etc
not a bad idea bout link im just gettin a new website made so finished il put link here
thanks!
 
Attic conversions to wardrobes, eh?
Structural floors to cabinet making, stairs to fire proofing, interstitial and habitable room ventilation - all with a good standard of workmanship.
That's a wide enough range for a chippie.

I hope you've read up on your Building Regs Parts A, B, D, F and K.

ONQ.
 
You will need to check with your management company as to whether you are permitted to make these kinds of changes in your building. There may well be a condition in your lease that prevents you from making these changes.
 
Hi, Complainer...Thanks for that very good advice...I will ask them before doing it. In January hopefully i will get the keys and ask them if i m allowed to remove a kitchen wall.
 
also roofing/ fitting velux windows,fitting steel beams,all 2nd fixing,kitchens,garage conversions,log cabins.......
all to the highest standard of workmanship.
not really a wide range for a chippie, thats just carpentry.....
 
That's master carpentry! I guess you served a full five year apprenticeship rather than the much shorter type that we now have have here in England.

(I was talking to a guy the other day who said that he was a bricklayer after a six month course.)
 
BillK said:
That's master carpentry! I guess you served a full five year apprenticeship rather than the much shorter type that we now have have here in England.

(I was talking to a guy the other day who said that he was a bricklayer after a six month course.)
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We can all lay bricks in Ireland.

Its getting them to stand up straight that's the problem...

ONQ.
 
BillK said:
That's master carpentry! I guess you served a full five year apprenticeship rather than the much shorter type that we now have have here in England.

(I was talking to a guy the other day who said that he was a bricklayer after a six month course.)
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All persons holding an Irish Craft trade Certificate would have served atleast a four year apprenticeship.
 
is a 7 phase apprentiship, take about four year somtimes little more. skill depends on employer small builder is the best way you learn everyting not just carpentry.big contractor u would just do carpentry. the craft cert is running bout 14 years before that was city and guilds. its a high pass rate 70% is a pass 85% is a credit. i have the craft cert with merit in roofing
 
Its getting a bit like the apprentice around here.

Can't get away from the interviews.
 
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