Paul O Mahoney
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Well the Astrazeneca vaccine isn't " useless " it does give protection to people getting " seriously ill" it's efficiency versus low and medium symptoms of the SA variant is lower, but the study of 2000 people isn't peer reviewed yet, and Astrazeneca are adamant it does give protection.Vaccination roll out is a shambles IMO. Now the AZ vaccine of which a supply of 21000 doses having arrived to much fanfare by the minister is probably of no use against the SA variant. It must be tweaked and Autumn is said to be the expected date of arrival. We have children being deprived of their education despite them not being responsible for the surge over xmas. Most days I checked the stats there were zero covid positive children in paediatric hospitals. Therefore children dont get ill with covid. Best to admit closing schools was a bad decision totally OTT. So much elective healthcare has postponed indefinitely when it should have gone ahead plus many people delaying attending hospitals because of fear. Vaccination is not the way out of this. The virus mutated too rapidly and by autumn you can bet there will be other variants out there. A good treatment repurposed or new is what's required IMO. The swedish approach to developing some level of herd immunity might not be such a bad approach after all. We cant live like this economically or socially much longer. A zero covid approach is utter fantasy in my view. We cannot hermetically seal our borders. Wouldn't work.
All viruses mutate. The more people who are vaccinated the less it will spread and so the less it will mutate.The virus mutated too rapidly and by autumn you can bet there will be other variants out there.
That's like saying "something else that works better is a better solution".A good treatment repurposed or new is what's required IMO.
However, up to date mass testing in Irish childcare facilities has revealed a 12.5% positivity rate. These children play with each other and go home to parents and grandparents. There's the problem.children dont get ill with covid
Can you post a ink to that please?However, up to date mass testing in Irish childcare facilities has revealed a 12.5% positivity rate. These children play with each other and go home to parents and grandparents. There's the problem.
But just remember creating a new vaccine and producing/delivering will have a considerable time difference.All viruses mutate. The more people who are vaccinated the less it will spread and so the less it will mutate.
The technology to develop the first mRNA vaccine was the big leap. Changing vaccines to deal with variants is a much smaller and faster step.
It is not mutating to any major degree and it's not mutating particularly quickly.
The swedish approach to developing some level of herd immunity might not be such a bad approach after all. We cant live like this economically or socially much longer. A zero covid approach is utter fantasy in my view. We cannot hermetically seal our borders. Wouldn't work.
Yes they are called vaccines.Effective treatments are the only way out of this.
Yes vaccines are the answer.You think vaccines are the perfect 'treatment'. You see no issues with them? I have heard of colleagues collapse after the second dose of one type wont name it here but you know the one I mean. Necessitating time off work in several individuals I know. Do you think the elderly will be immune from these reactions ? You didnt answer if you think the elderly will amount an effective immune response ? What about duration of immunity ? If it takes AZ til Sept to roll out their new version then when can we expect to receive it ? By Chistmas ? Some time in 2022 ? Are we to stay in lockdown til then ? What if there is another new variant in May for instance ? I still say get our kids back to school now. Await treatments. Inhaled interferon for one example. Vaccines are too slow. All IMO of course....
It's not important what you or I or any other lay person think about whether vaccines are effective, dangerous or whatever. These vaccines are developed, tested, evaluated and regulated by thousands of very brainy, very experienced and very well funded scientists who also tend to be very cautious. If they say that the risk associated with being vaccinated is infinitely smaller than the risk associated with contracting Covid and infecting others, who are we to disagree with them? It's OK to be critical and sceptical about lots of things but here it's important to listen to those whose judgement is based on scientific evidence.didnt answer if you think the elderly will amount an effective immune response ?
Northern Ireland have vaccinated 600000 as of now and we have only done 230,000. Those are pretty stark statistics and really illustrates the shambles of our own and Eu vaccination program. I think we should swallow our pride and get some of the UK excess, they are more than willing to provide anyways as we share the common travel area and the main reason for the upsurge here was exposure to the UK and UK variant. Heads need to roll at eu level for this shambles, they have been too cozy and protected from the electorates for too long, their is a democratic deficit at the heart of the eu. We still don't know the people who made the actual decisions and why.
I agree - if you were correct. Where do you get your "facts"?Northern Ireland have vaccinated 600000 as of now and we have only done 230,000. Those are pretty stark statistics
Yes you are correct I made a mistake there its actually around 300K now600,000? You might want to read the above link.
Who said they haggled over price? If you remember we were only told there was a viable vaccine 3 months ago, now there are 3 and eventough there are 3 there is a supply shortage that nobody can control even the EU.Yes you are correct I made a mistake there its actually around 300K now. Thats what they said on newstalk business this morning Im certain. It doesn't take away from the thrust of what I said in the rest of the post. The UK has 20% of their population now vaccinated and did 350K today alone, they are racing ahead to vaccinate as many as possible with the first dose while holding back the second dose for alot longer which is a very pragmatic decision.
We need answers from Brussels on why they messed up and why they insisted on haggling over the price they would pay the pharma companies . Afterall the price difference was only be in the millions , small change to an organisation that throws around billions. The cost to the EU is more months of lockdowns costing many billions along with many more deaths and livelihoods destroyed. There needs to more answers who messed up and what bureacracy ?
they are racing ahead to vaccinate as many as possible with the first dose while holding back the second dose for alot longer which is a very pragmatic decision.
We need answers from Brussels on why they messed up and why they insisted on haggling over the price they would pay the pharma companies . Afterall the price difference was only be in the millions , small change to an organisation that throws around billions. The cost to the EU is more months of lockdowns costing many billions along with many more deaths and livelihoods destroyed. There needs to more answers who messed up and what bureacracy ?
Posting a false figure (wrong by a factor of 98%) in order to make RoI's vaccination performance appear really bad, doesn't take away from the thrust of what you said? Are you kidding?It doesn't take away from the thrust of what I said in the rest of the post.
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