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[Purple]

Covid-19: UK in early stages of third wave - scientist

A scientist advising the government says there has been exponential growth in the number of new cases.

www.bbc.com

The headline might be a bit tabloid in style but the story is sobering.

Well we'll be alright by the 7th wave

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

Well we'll be alright by the 7th wave

I haven't heard that song in years

 

[joer]

Perhaps Purple will sing it for everyone

 

[Purple]

Perhaps Purple will sing it for everyone

Trust me, you don't want to hear me sing.

 

[odyssey06]

The UK has announced zero daily Covid deaths within 28 days of a positive test for the first time since March 2020.
The latest figures also reported another 3,165 new cases, compared with 3,383 on Monday and 2,493 one week ago.
It comes amid concern over a recent small rise in cases linked to the variant first identified in India.

Covid: Zero daily deaths announced in UK for first time

The latest figures come amid concern over a recent small rise in cases linked to the Indian variant.

www.bbc.com

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

The UK has announced zero daily Covid deaths within 28 days of a positive test for the first time since March 2020.
The latest figures also reported another 3,165 new cases, compared with 3,383 on Monday and 2,493 one week ago.
It comes amid concern over a recent small rise in cases linked to the variant first identified in India.

Covid: Zero daily deaths announced in UK for first time

The latest figures come amid concern over a recent small rise in cases linked to the Indian variant.

www.bbc.com

Good news.

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

Covid infections rise by two-thirds in UK - ONS

Increasing numbers of infections are likely to be caused by the so-called Indian, or Delta, variant.

www.bbc.com

Oh dear.

 

[odyssey06]

Uk poised to delay end of restrictions... want another month to vaccinate younger groups due to concern re Delta variant

Johnson poised to delay UK Covid lockdown lifting to July as experts urge caution

Ministers are considering putting back the final easing of controls in England for four weeks as cases of the Delta variant surge.

www.thejournal.ie

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

Uk poised to delay end of restrictions... want another month to vaccinate younger groups due to concern re Delta variant

Johnson poised to delay UK Covid lockdown lifting to July as experts urge caution

Ministers are considering putting back the final easing of controls in England for four weeks as cases of the Delta variant surge.

www.thejournal.ie

Covid: Lockdown easing in England to be delayed by four weeks

Most current Covid rules will remain for four more weeks after 21 June, government sources say.

www.bbc.com

Looks like that's what's going to happen now. When they decided to increase the gap between vaccines many thought it was a good thing and it would have been if the virus hadn't mutated in the manner it has, but despite the manufactures stating explicitly that there was no data to support the longer gaps they went along and did it anyway.
I understand the arguments of getting economies back to some level of " normality" but that shouldn't be the only consideration.
They now are going get to the more people fully vaccinated in the next four weeks but standing at 50% now and getting to 70% , a figure supposedly indicating " herd immunity " is a big ask.

I really hope they achieve this or at least get actual data that shows that the link between cases and hospitalization is either cut or at least lowered to a level that is not overwhelming health services.

Of course the implications for us are huge and I feel our governments decisions will consider the UKs experience. Add in the fact that our data is now" back of an envelope " which isn't ideal.

 

[EmmDee]

They now are going get to the more people fully vaccinated in the next four weeks but standing at 50% now and getting to 70% , a figure supposedly indicating " herd immunity " is a big ask.

Remember that 70% for herd immunity includes the full population rather than just adults. To get full immunity it needs a higher % of adults than 70%. There was a good 3 min clip from RTE outlining this specifically

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

Remember that 70% for herd immunity includes the full population rather than just adults. To get full immunity it needs a higher % of adults than 70%. There was a good 3 min clip from RTE outlining this specifically

Oh I appreciate that, but like so many "targets " during this pandemic they don't seem to have a standard definition of what " herd immunity " is in relation to this virus and its variants.

 

[Leo]

Oh I appreciate that, but like so many "targets " during this pandemic they don't seem to have a standard definition of what " herd immunity " is in relation to this virus and its variants.

The more infectious, the higher the rate of immunisation you need to reach the herd immunity point where infection numbers drop. The 70% rate seems to have been widely used around the world, but that was before the Indian variant was identified.

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

The more infectious, the higher the rate of immunisation you need to reach the herd immunity point where infection numbers drop. The 70% rate seems to have been widely used around the world, but that was before the Indian variant was identified.

Yes it was and it still wasn't explained why 70% was the number chosen. SARS2 has a very wide percentage from 40 to 80% , Fauci has said it might be 85% for Covid 19.
Time again will tell us what the figure is but don't be surprised if it's much higher than 70% .

 

[Purple]

From the perspective of vaccine development a single dominant strain is better than multiple variants in the population so if the Delta variant replaces the other less infectious strains that makes it easier to vaccinate against.

 

[kinnjohn]

Sally O Brine and the way she might look at you, and you could fry an egg on the stones hear if you had an egg,

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

Covid vaccine to be compulsory for England care home staff

The health secretary says it is a "sensible and reasonable step” and could be extended to the NHS.

www.bbc.com

While this seems a sensible move , but threatening losing your job if you don't comply is a bit harsh.
Wonder if out Government are considering something similar?

 

[Purple]

While this seems a sensible move , but threatening losing your job if you don't comply is a bit harsh.

Why?

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

It's the language, of course all carers must be vaccinated to work in that sector.

 

[Purple]

It's the language, of course all carers must be vaccinated to work in that sector.

How else should it be phrased? If you want to work in that setting you have to be vaccinated. If you refuse to be vaccinated then you can (and should) lose your job.

 

[odyssey06]

Third wave hitting Brazil but government neither focused on restrictions or vaccines...


This week the average number of daily deaths surpassed 2,000 for the first time since 10 May.
“The third wave is arriving, there’s already in a change in the case and death curves,” Ethel Maciel, an epidemiologist from Espirito Santo University, told AFP.
“Our vaccination (program), which could make a difference, is slow and there are no signs of restrictive measures, quite the contrary.”
In large cities, life seems almost back to normal with restaurants, bars and shops open and many people in the streets not wearing face masks.
And yet the situation is critical in 19 of Brazil’s 27 states with more than 80% occupancy of intensive care beds – in nine of those states, it’s over 90%.

Third pandemic wave hits as Brazil passes half million covid deaths

Many critics blame President Jair Bolsonaro’s attempt to minimise the disease as the reason behind the toll.

www.thejournal.ie