Brendan Burgess
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Julio was a very charismatic speaker and has been described as "The Leonardo da Vinci of Fintech":. He did not have slides. It was real Freeman/Libertarian stuff. He has a a right to buy anything from anybody anywhere in the World and no one has a right to stop him. He has a right to put anything he wants into his body and no government has the right to tell him not to. He has not signed any social contract - he wanted to see a copy of it. The Nation State = Violence. We should return to where we were 200 years ago before the industrial revolution - a period of great personal freedom. He will only accept being a member of an "intentional community" not the "state which is causing violence"
I thought initially that I had misunderstood him. But it got more and more outrageous, so he was actually saying these things. I was first to speak after the session finished and let fly. I told Julio that I did not want to be rude to a visitor but he was talking "nonsense". Utter "nonsense". I told the Chairman that, while not a member of the Hibernian Forum, I was a supporter and I considered that "nonsense" like this would damage the reputation of the Hibernia Forum. I didn't actually use the word "nonsense" - I was more forthright to such an extent that the Chairman intervened and told me to stop swearing.
Julio was asked to respond and just said he is a director of a company worth $86m and had lectured to the United Nations, EU, University of Cambridge and Google. "next question please".
"Bitcoin is a political ideology... a movement of people...a tool used against state violence."
Satoshi shows us that "this is not white people inventions. This is a different This post will be deleted if not edited immediately Christ that was not born in the Middle East"
"The foundation of Bitcoin, apart from its White Paper, it is "Crypto Anarchy and Virtual Communities" written by Tim May in 1994"
Why couldn't you follow the normal costume of raising your hand and asking a question?
the other attendees feel uneasy about wasting time with people ranting.
The more I read and see about this stuff, the more I realise that it’s about Freeman anarchy and criminality circumventing rules and regulations.
And there were two other Bitcoin enthusiasts who seemed very level-headed.
You 'realise' incorrectly and it is inherently wrong to suggest crypto is synonymous with a Freeman ideology. This is the first time that I've heard of such a pronouncement but then, every other effort at tar and feathering it has been made...why not this.Well done Brendan.
The more I read and see about this stuff, the more I realise that it’s about Freeman anarchy and criminality circumventing rules and regulations.
Which is why it is doomed to fail.
Plus most anarchists inevitably grow up and become functioning members of society.
I don't have any problem with you expressing the opinion that you see nothing tangible in it (although not my view). However, on the 'scam', you're absolutely wrong. I'd suggest you look at how bitcoin came into existence and how it functions now. Then recheck the definition of a scam. You can't square those two items.But the Bitcoin currency stuff is a scam built on a rather odious mixture of faux anarchy, bullsh1t, and criminality.
That is exactly what I did.
I did not interrupt him. I was tempted to answer some of his rhetorical questions, but resisted.
The guy was speaking rubbish, total unmitigated rubbish. And I told him so. There was no harassment whatsoever.
You are quite right. The other attendees felt very uneasy about Julio's ranting. My challenge to his rant made them realise that they were not on their own and they were comfortable challenging it afterwards.
On reflection, it was not a waste of time. It gave me an insight into the woolly thinking of some Bitcoin enthusiasts. And there were two other Bitcoin enthusiasts who seemed very level-headed.
But the Bitcoin currency stuff is a scam built on a rather odious mixture of faux anarchy, bullsh1t, and criminality.
Did any of these people mention anythng about bitcoin?
You on the other hand have no right to insult a speaker because you disagree with his ideas.
What do you do when someone goes on a long rant of total rubbish?
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