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Oh yes they do, unfortunately.I don't think unions generally get involved in 'secret' negotiations.
I know it's the panto season, but you really need to give a bit more detail in your response. When has this happened before?Oh yes they do, unfortunately.
I know it's the panto season, but you really need to give a bit more detail in your response. When has this happened before?
Also I think the unions are generally at higher management level in the CS these days anyway.
I've heard (off the record of course) from my Union Rep that the executive officers within the public/civil service Unions are having talks presently, about how to deal with the redundancies their members are going to experience in 2009.
He suggested that there are going to be voluntary redundancy packages offered initially and then compulsory redundancies on a last in first out basis.
I am currently working in an Authority within the Public Service but was moved over from the Civil Service so still retain the Civil Service terms and conditions. It looks likely that I will be able to apply to transfer back into the Civil Service if you are in the Public Service.
Has anyone heard anything similar or different?
There are all sorts of rumours floating around at the moment, If redundancies are offered its more likely to be aimed at the PS first, preferably at higher level - grade 7/8's etc I believe.
Although if they offered me a package such as PTSB did to their staff - go away for 3 years and we'll give you 75% of one years wage I'd be gone no childcare to worry about!!
Anybody employed since 2005 (open to correction here) pay full PRSI and therefore can be let go, they will get SW benefit which longterm C and P Servants would not be eligible for. If they want non-full PRSI people to leave then they will have to arrange for those people to be able to access the SW Benefit system which currently they can not.
Nothing would surprise me at this stage, I'm waiting for an embargo to be announced I've 17 years service but with the job senario out there now, there is nothing to encourage me to take redundancy.
Forgive my ignorance, but I just don't understand this. How can an action be 'grassroots' if it is done without the knowledge of members (i.e. the grassroots)? What do you mean by 'went back into the branch'?I'm afraid I can't really fill in the blanks on this one, but over the years I have been involved in one or two grassroots actions to "renegotiate" deals that were made on behalf of the members without their knowledge.
Watching out of that sort of thing one of the reasons I went back onto the branch, and built up some useful contacts.
I find it hard to believe that any manager would use a year-end party to raise the issue of redundancies? This would be entirely inappropriate? What about the staff who don't attend the party? What about written information about the redundancy package? Are you referring to public sector or private sector here?I have also heard that at year-end parties/speeches it was mentioned that there would be voluntary redundancies across the board in 2009 -
Like PadraigB, I just don't get what you mean here. Can you clarify?Also I think the unions are generally at higher management level in the CS these days anyway.
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