The issue is that the union will protest their members to the detriment of the residents of the care home. All employees should know that they can and will lose their job for gross misconduct and they should know that it will happen quickly.Hey guys, we're getting caught up in unions again and nearly forgetting about the main subject here. The job of unions is to protect its members. No union has condoned what has happened. We do not know if the people involved are even members of a union.
Nine people (including two nurses) have been suspended on full pay (whether overtime, Sunday Duty, Night Duty, Shift Allowance etc is included in this, we do not know) pending an investigation. There is a process in the HSE which must be followed before any sacking can take place.
The issue is that the union will protest their members to the detriment of the residents of the care home. All employees should know that they can and will lose their job for gross misconduct and they should know that it will happen quickly.
No union should ever back an employee who was sacked on these grounds and was guilty of the charges but proper procedures were not followed. Unfortunately the Unions are not interested in justice, just looking after their members. They are a vested interest group and will, once again, hurt the vulnerable in order to protect their predominately middle-class members.
This scenario is a major factor in this incident and in the wider low level of standards and value we as a nation receive from our state sector or sectors regulated by the state.
I thought the programme was horrific and the behaviour of the care staff and nurses beyond belief. How it came to be like that there you would have to wonder - where most of the staff in that unit had the same horrible attitude. It seemed to be a big enough group of staff, you would think that one or two of them would have stood up to it. I don't blame the minister for this. I blame the people who did it all of whom had qualifications. The minister can't be everywhere but the manager of the unit should be fired along with those staff in the video in order to send a clear message to others that this behaviour won't be tolerated. Their work is stressful - I wouldn't be able to do it - but there are guidelines in place and training available as to how to deal with it. Shame on those people.
The people involved should just be sacked.
These are not medical people, they are nurses and care assistants.... These were qualified medical people (Nursing and FETAC Level 5). ...
Purple, Normally I enjoy your posts (even if I do not agree with you on whatever subject) but your stance on trades unions here is bordering on the ludicrous.
I would presume that if the staff there are in a union that it would be Impact? Doesn't seem to be any statement there about the issue but instead a video on a labour court recommendation on sleepover rates in care homes!
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Your comment got me thinking about why I dislike Unions so much. It’s not just the disingenuous populism of their leaders. It’s not just their betrayal of what they were set up to do. It’s not the fact that they seek to further the economic success of the already economically advantaged to the detriment of society in general and the poor and vulnerable in particular. No, it’s the fact that they, more than any other group, epitomise the culture of mediocrity that is so pervasive in so many parts of our state from our public services, to the Gardai, our health services, our semi-states, our education system and our local and national government.
They are the distilled personification of the lack of personal responsibility and accountability which is the root of incompetence and mediocrity.
The abuse within this Care Home is just another manifestation of that culture. Babies dying in hospitals, ambulances waiting for hours in A&E’s, children with special needs not getting the help they need, people dying outside the Dail. These are other examples.
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