Car insurance: anyone else seeing a reduction?

The largest costs of insurance relate to accidents not theft. COVID19 restrictions meant we drove very little for considerable periods of time.
I remember looking at it (and I think even posting here on it during last summer), traffic volumes in March / April last year dropped to something like 30% of their pre-covid levels, but during the summer they climbed back to 80%. You can look at detailed analysis here.

We'd need to see accident stats too, often with less traffic, accident numbers rise as people are travelling more quickly.
 
One of mine went up slightly the other down.
I've never seen any pattern to how car insurance works. Its seems they charge what the market will bear.
This is borne out in how the prices quoted fluctuate wildly, often between phone calls.
 
That's the essence of capitalism - charge what the market will bear.

If you can divide your customers up into different segments (for example new customers, moaning customers, sheep) and charge each segment a different price - even better. Why do you think coffee shops have a wide range of coffees on sale ?

It is not possible to do this with goods on a supermarket shelf as everyone can see the price, but in the insurance market, most customers do not know the price offered by an insurance company except the one offered to them
 

The difference is you're legally obliged to have insurance. You're not legally obliged to get a coffee.

Also in the UK, you have car insurance groups, so you have idea what things might cost. In Ireland we don't.
In Ireland you might find out a small coffee is 3 times the cost a large, because.. well we don't know why.
They want you know the license plate of the car being quoted so they don't by accident give a cheaper quote if you ring back anonymously.

They are price gouging and dual-pricing, their claims of high costs do not stand up to scrutiny.

So not the same as buying a coffee.
 
How is it not the same as buying coffee - you are buying insurance cover (yes, it is obligatory) but there are numerous suppliers looking for your business and they all charge different prices .

I would not trust the State to get involved and run the insurance market - it does not a good track record in this area since as long as I can remember - think back of all the insurance failures we have paid for and are still paying for

I agree that the market is dysfunctional but more transparency would sort that out pretty quickly
 
How is it not the same as buying coffee - you are buying insurance cover (yes, it is obligatory) but there are numerous suppliers looking for your business and they all charge different prices .

Ahem...


Its a captive market. They are shooting ducks in a barrel.

There's lots of stuff going on.

If you have an outstanding claim, you can't switch insurers, so they can charge whatever.
You stop your insurance for 2yrs, you lose your 10yr NCB. Even if you've a clean license for 20yrs, they put you right back at the start again.
So if you downsize to one car, you have play daft games of switching the main driver.
They charge you extra is its old car, or a new car. Or if you are young or if you are old. Etc etc.

Its like the local shop or always overcharge you by "accident" but never under charge you by accident. Ummmm.
 

That's a bit rich going for the "State", those insurance failures were firstly the responsibility of the Directors of those companies, all private sector. We are subsidising private sector failure here. Insurance is a risk business, insurance sector regulation is not about preventing failure, its about minimising its impact. Insurance Ireland could address some of those market dynamics in the morning, why don't they?
Its a captive market. They are shooting ducks in a barrel.

There's lots of stuff going on.

Including consumer behaviour. In the CBI's review of differential pricing, they looked at consumer responses in response to an increase in premium:
 
Many of these are global companies. They might make a loss in some specific areas, some sectors, but globally they are often making vast profits while claiming they are making a loss in one area..
 
Many of these are global companies. They might make a loss in some specific areas, some sectors, but globally they are often making vast profits while claiming they are making a loss in one area..
If they were making vast profits elsewhere, surely they'd just cut and run. We all know they're not in business here for the benefit of anyone but themselves.
 
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After a few years of rises I have my first reduction. €750 last year €328 this year. I did put a bit of effort in this year shopping around though.

Aviva €328
Zurich €338
AXA €436
AIB €489
123 €504
Chill €512
FBD €593
Liberty €566 3rd party only quoted
Allianz no quote
AIG €917

All online quotes, no interest in calling multiple companies.
 
Is your Avensis pre 2008 when you say the motor tax is high?
And could the rusted suspension component be replaced cheaply?
2007 AVENSIS, €137 to replace suspension component & bushes, and to do tracking & alignment. €28 for re-test which was a nice clean PASS. The car now has a 12-month NCT.

Swap-over next weekend.
 

That's a massive drop in price.
 
Yes - I work for an insurer and get a 50% discount, but my final price was still 50 euros less than last year.
 
Its a broker only pricing and they charge you for every little extra thing or change.
 
Same thing as your utility provider - my understanding is that this is exactly what they want to ban. But it still is hard to understand why people have such loyalty when the provider isn't acting in your interest (as is same for utilities, banks etc). I work for a foreign business unit of an insurer here, and my boss told me that their customers there also stick with them because their mother and father bought from the same insurer and their parents before them....