Fitzcarraldo said:
No discussion here Clubman because there is no interest in discussing anything which contradicts perceived wisdom - that unions are EVIL.
Perceived wisdom where? Here on
AAM specifically or in the wider/real world in general? If lack of discussion is upsetting you then feel free to initiate some.
This is a uniformly right-wing BB, in spite of Purples pathetic protestations.
Any chance you could provide some evidence (e.g. links to specific threads or posts) to support this assertion? How, precisely, is this board "uniformly right-wing"?
The discussion about Turkish workers (the one you 'don't recall' -surprise-surprise) was held on the old ezboard-BB. I guess my memory is just better than yours in such matters. If you want chapter and verse you'd better find it yourself, its there.
Why not root it out yourself if this matter exercises you so much?
Its all very well to say you consider what happened to the GAMA workers a disgrace, but the common theme on this right wing BB is that unions are an abomination - when any honest person knows that they are NECESSARY to prevent greedy Irish employers from exploiting their employees, and this is a perfect example of how employers (not just Irish ones either) will do exactly that, when given free reign.
Again I'd challenge you to provide evidence to back up your assertions/accusations. In particular I'd like to know where anybody in particular claimed or insinuated that unions are an abomination.
But whatever about that, if unions are so NECESSARY then why did it take the single handed efforts of an individual
TD (
Joe Higgins - somebody for whom I have great admiration after this incident but for whom I would never vote because I disagree with so many of his policies and ideologies) to highlight the matter, with
SIPTU (represented by somebody who I know personally as it happens) eventually being forced (reluctantly it seemed) to get involved, and why did the various unions involved not show more solidarity with the
Turkish workers by supporting their plight? Was there any withdrawal of labour by colleagues and associated unions in support of the Turkish workers?
Perhaps YOU can provide ME with links to examples of how you've historically advocated the labour movement?
Where did I ever claim to have "advocated the labour movement", whatever that means? I have never been a member of a union (
USI and my local
Credit Union excepted) and generally have no time for them based on my own limited personal experience (having inquired about an employee rights issue on behalf of colleagues in the context of a takeover situation years ago when I was given short shrift by the union in question) as well as that of my father's (when his construction industry union did nothing about a legitimate complaint that he and his colleagues had and seemed more interested in playing left wing factional political games rather than representing their constituency properly). But of course these are just my personal opinions and not necessarily representative of the majority of
AAM contributors.
I think not.
Crocodile tears Clubman, Crocodile Tears.
What tears?
Maybe you can answer a couple of straight questions for me? What are your views on free market capitalism and what do you make of the unions' collaboration with same (e.g. national wage agreements, social partnership etc.)?
I suppose that I really should resist the temptation to respond to trolls...