Most good jockeys don't beat their mounts with whips. Next time you watch a race watch out for the wide movement of the jockeys whip holding arm, they do this to warn the horse of the whip and good jockeys won't hit down hard. Although some will say that the threat of pain is just as bad. For the few years that I was involved I only ever saw one horse with welts from whipping after a race and the turf club fined the jockey for excessive use of the whip.
Michelle De Bruin won three Olympic gold medals.
Doesn't belong in this thread and in any sporting achievers thread
You're missing the plot there. AOB has had more stable jockeys than Italy has had prime ministers. I want to change tack a little. Ireland is a World Super Power in horse racing. Driven mainly by AOB but also Bolger and Weld. We are punching way, way above our weight, and yet a very modest outperformance by our soccer team, consisting of Irish emigrant descendants managed by an Englishman got far more recognition.As for Aidan O Brien he is great at training but unless he is the jockey I would not count him,Is is someone else who actually wins the races and not him, like saying the mechanic who looks after the Maclaren car is the greatest in motor sports in 2007.
Why? she did win after all. She surely had been tested then after each race. Whatever happened afterwards is of no consequence.
Rubbish. She was a drugs cheat just like Marion Jones. She wasn't caught at the time either but what happened afterwards showed her up for what she was. Just like Michelle de Bruin. And I speak as someone who was Michelles biggest fan at the time while living abroad and having to defend her corner while people doubted her achievements. How innocent I was!!
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#Rubbish? Would she have been tested after every gold medal win? If so, then she won them fair and square.
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Why? Marion Jones was tested after every gold medal in Sydney and passed but admitted later she was drugs. Did she win them fair and square?
His record speaks for itself. He is a great Irish sporting achiever He has a horse to work with and has to do his best with that individual animal. Nothing like building a mechanial device.
Would you say Sir Aelx was not a great sporting achiever cos he never kicked a ball in any Man UTD victory?
Rubbish? Would she have been tested after every gold medal win? If so, then she won them fair and square.
Back to topic, why do we have this desire to name someone Irelands best ever sports person. I never hear other countries do it after someone achieves success. It is very difficult to compare competitors from different eras never mind across different sports. Why don't we just enjoy what Padraig has achieved? It was a staggering achievement. We don't get many of them so just enjoy it.
I think given the resources Alex Ferguson has anything less would mean he is under achieving ,Given that Wenger has been his main rival for the last 10 years and Ferguson has had on average spent 15 million Euro more each season than Wenger,Ferguson has spent over 145 million Euro more than Wenger, Now do you really think he deserve's such huge credit .Unless all managers have the same resources than I would not be to keen to give credit, now if they bought a player for say 500K like Arsenal did with Anekla and sold him for 23 Million and went on to buy more players with that profit than that is good business, but to be able go out and buy for eg Ferdinand for 30Million,Veron for 25Million+ that I would not think is something to be all that proud of,
Denis Irwin is the most decorated Irish soccer player
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