BERTIE - brakes on privatisation

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WizardDr

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I saw this headline in Irelands daily socialist hush puppy rag - the Oirish Times.

What I wondered was:

- just how many privatisations we actually did on the last 24 months.

Was it:

1000?

100?

10?

NIL?

It appears to be NIL. Does anybody care?
 
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No Irish people are going to buy shares since the eircon fiasco. People are too busy investing in property.
 
privatisation

Don't know about the privatisations but any paper that has Kevin Myers and Mark Stein writing for it can hardly be termed a "socialist rag".

The editor Geraldine Kennedy was a member of the PD's and can hardly be described as a socialist.

What services exactly do you think should be privatised?

Surely it has become obvious that handing over public services to a private monopoly actually makes matters worse, eg overcharging, market abuse, etc...

Control Plus being a case in point - I'm thinking of the recent newspaper articles about their alleged intimidation of a pensioner who dared to disagree with their manner of enforcement of the clamping regime.
 
here's a list

What should be privatised:

Aer Lingus

Electricity generation
(not necessarily supply)

ports

All hospitals.
 
Re: here's a list

I think that a private monopoly is worse than a public one.
I am in favour of privatising public companies only if they are operating in an open market.
 
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Who trains junior IT people?, or junior solicitors, or junior chefs etc, etc...
 
Re: ?

You are missing the point, headlamp. None of the private hospitals operate as 'teaching hospitals'. They are structured to provide the function. Their business model works because they cream off resources which have been trained in the public system. If you privatise all hospitals, you lose the training function.
 
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If the training function is lost than so too is the source of medical expertise that these hospitals currently rely on.

Surely at that stage, they would have to arrange for their own development of expertise in much the same way as law firms, etc have to at the moment.
 
private health

being a health professional, I would strongly suggest that those of you in favour of private health would a) look at both the USA and Canadian systems, and compare and b) think about this situation: you are brought to hospital after a bad car crash. As you are wheeled in, bleeding, confused and groaning, a nurse asks you persistantly for your health insuarnce company and policy number, as no treatment can be given without these. (Not that any private hospitals provide A&E services here)
One of the big differences observed by colleague who worked in both the US and Canada, is that patients are brought in suffering very severe disorders in the States which are then more difficult and more expensive to treat in th US, while in Canada people go to get things sorted at an early stage, because they are not going to be hit with bills. It's happening here already with people avoiding going to the GP for early treatment because of the cost.
 
Re: private health

A recent ERSI study of healthcare systems in developed countries had Ireland coming in 29th out of 30 developed countries - just ahead of the great home of capitalism & competition - the US of A. Given Mata Harney's oft-stated preference for Boston over Berlin, no doubt we can look forward to Ireland beating the US for the bottom slot next year.
 
G'wan Mary !!

Maybe that's why the Government put her in charge of health. If Mary can't sort out the greedy consultants and bloated staff unions then no one else ever will !!

G'wan Mary ye good thing !!

;)
 
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