I'm probably going to be lynched for commenting about this but why is it that anytime we see or hear something violent on the television we are offered a counseling service. When the credits are rolling we hear a patronizing voice over suggesting that if we have been effected by the contents of this programme call some organization. A recent court case has also offered jurors counseling if they require it. The nanny state at its best.
I've never heard that.When the credits are rolling we hear a patronizing voice over suggesting that if we have been effected by the contents of this programme call some organization. ...
I presume the logic is that they didn't need counselling before the case but due to the graphic nature of the evidence they may need it now.I agree, if they need counselling they shouldn't have been chosen as jurors in the first place.
I agree, if they need counselling they shouldn't have been chosen as jurors in the first place.
When the credits are rolling we hear a patronizing voice over suggesting that if we have been effected by the contents of this programme call some organization
Have you ever sat through a case where you were forced to watch videos of a man stabbing bounded and gagged women and listen to them cry and scream or having deranged sexual fantasies read out. Most normal people would find that disturbing and might well be damaged by it. It doesn't make them weak or incapable of being jurors. I have never felt disturbed reading news reports about cases but I was once on a jury on a case where an man was accused of sexually abusing his niece. I have no problem in admitting that I was deeply upset after that case. It took me a long time to get that girls testimony out of my head. I didn't need counselling but I wouldn't have judged anyone on the jury with me that felt like they needed it.
Families, through their GPs or self-referral, can access free Mental Health Services / counselling as can every other citizen of the State....I wonder are the families, solicitors, barristers offered counseling?
Sorry to hear that. There are victims' organisations you could have accessed or again, free State services.... I was the victim of a crime some years ago that could have resulted in my death. The Gardai knew the perpetrator but did not have enough evidence to haul them before the courts. I was not offered counseling just a pat on the back to say we will be keeping a very close on the individual. For a long time I sat up each night expecting my hall door to come in on top of me. I wasn't offered counseling nor did I expect to be.
I've never heard this... When the credits are rolling we hear a patronizing voice over suggesting that if we have been effected by the contents of this programme call some organization.
Being exposed to the grief and suffering of victims and the visceral reality of some violent crimes is far removed from nightly American TV programmes.You know what lads? There are now councillors for everything. These councillors can make an easy living. There's the guy seeking promotion within his job paying some talkative shrink to egg him on and assert himself in the workplace. There's the girl who thinks that employing a enjoy-your-wedding-more councillor that the big day will even be bigger. Then you have the guy who cannot get out of bed in the morning employing his advisor to tell him how to run his day (and of course how to get the elastic limit most from that day). Now juries are getting in on the act; we need counselling because of the evidence we heard when you can hear the like most nights on American television programmes.
There comes a time when we must "man-up" to reality and stand on our own two feet. Or must our nanny state molly coddle us into old age?
The jurors were performing a service for the state so yes I think it is only right that the state offer support after where needed.I hear what you are saying but do we as a State need to offer this service? It's a big, bad world out there and we need to get a thick skin to survive it. The case in question was not an easy trial to sit through and it made for harrowing reading but the jury made their decision and should now leave all emotion at the door.
Ah here now, that's like something Bertie was saying in his heyday. Not everyone has the same ability to remain cold and unemotional during a trial Leper and your suggestion that "any juror worth his/her salt should be able to cast emotions aside" is quite a harsh statement tbh. Jurors don't offer their services, they are selected and must perform their duty unless they have a valid excuse not to.There comes a time when we must "man-up" to reality and stand on our own two feet.
The real issue is the costs charged by the lawyers.I'll tell ya one thing lads! I hear the Irish Taxpayer is to pay for Ian Bailey's Compo case and Graham Dwyer's infamous case thought to be in the region of €6,000,000.00 and probably more. I (as an Irish Taxpayer) need counselling quick.
I would not like to live in a society where we have automatons only selected for jury duty.I agree, if they need counselling they shouldn't have been chosen as jurors in the first place.
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