As long as Catholics do not try to impose their rules and teachings on others, what is there to discuss? In short, I don't see how this is even a matter for discussion or comment by anyone who is not a member of the Catholic Church.
Catholic rules and teachings are imposed on every patient in hospitals around the country. And in most primary schools.As long as Catholics do not try to impose their rules and teachings on others, what is there to discuss?
In short, I don't see how this is even a matter for discussion or comment by anyone who is not a member of the Catholic Church.
Catholic rules and teachings are imposed on every patient in hospitals around the country. And in most primary schools.
Yes. Anyone can have faith but it still doesn't mean there is any logic or real sense to it. My point was that while some believers accept this, many (mostly less educated) don't even realise this and have never considered or questioned their own 'beliefs'
Were our forebears and ancestors throughout Europe also not foolish for allowing the catholic church to put people to death because there professed a different faith?
I've never come across a religion that doesn't want your cash in exchange for something that you cannot redeem until after you die. At least the tarot reader has the decency to deliver the goods upfront. Surely it is incredibly strange "to believe" but not practice?
Everybody is free to believe in whatever they like but this does not mean that others must necessarily or automatically grant these beliefs "respect" or desist from criticising them.
My feelings have nothing to do with the Athetist/Agnostic system of belief/non belief but simply with my absolute hatred for the catholic church for the harm they have done to the people of this country (You don't need me to go into details here, or do you?) down through the years and the poision they tried to put into my brain in my primary school years.
I guess the fundamental element to faith is the absense of logic, sometimes it is easier for people to not question their own beliefs for they may be left with a void - i'm not saying that is right.
You can go to church and are encouraged to make an offering, but there is no fee or any charge, you don't pay for confession, I don't think tarot readers in general give freebies, but i could be wrong. I do not practice my religion, but i may return to do so in time. i do question many aspects of the church and don't agree with alot of its teachings, but I do have faith - it might be hard to understand my stance, but thats all there is to it.
This sort of stuff is a pure rip-off as it can never deliver what it promises (e.g. predicting the future etc.).Plus, as I mentioned previously, the tarot card readers deliver their product upfront.
This sort of stuff is a pure rip-off as it can never deliver what it promises (e.g. predicting the future etc.).
This sort of stuff is a pure rip-off as it can never deliver what it promises (e.g. predicting the future etc.).
"For specific value-added services - funerals, weddings, those masses they say for people after they die (apologies but the name escapes me) - the payment is mandatory."
Not in the Catholic Church I went to as a child. Perhaps in some individual parishes, and perhaps more commonly so now than before. But I think that where payments are on some sort of a prescribed scale, most such payments are expected, rather than demanded and I doubt that they are ever insisted upon.
The Catholic Church promises eternal salvation, are you telling me they can deliver? I think with these things people just want to feel reassured. A psychic who only ever delivers bad news probably won't get much repeat business. I imagine (or I would hope at any rate) that even the people paying for psychic services don't believe these people can actually predict the future.
I think I'm enmbroiled in a church defence here except my initial argument was that faith has helped alot of people and I believe more than it has hindered. I do believe some priests have great faith in their ideologies and would only want to do well onto others while some other priests are simply nasty men that can be found in any institution. I don't think that the priests and their latest legacy have anything to do with faith per se, nor the constant interference from the church in modern day matters.
again this is a very simplistic approach to the subject, as church goers don't go simply to save their souls.
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