Doing a pre retirement course with the union in a couple of weeks. To be honest I found them fairly poor. I was trying to access theWould your Union or Association not be in a position to provide assistance? I see from your post on Boards that you're working in the academic area where, I would imagine, applying for PAY would arise on a regular basis.
Will do. Ill give all the details as I go along here.It's quite difficult to find information on PAY and how they are calculated. A recently retired colleague with 30 years PS service at age 65 applying for PFAs was advised by their HR department to only apply for 9 years instead of 10 because they had a previous pension from another employment. Please update us with the outcome of your application. If you could provide the number of years service upon retirement and the number of PFAs applied for versus awarded, that you be very useful. Good luck.
Doing a pre retirement course with the union in a couple of weeks. To be honest I found them fairly poor. I was trying to access the
critical illness protocol a couple of years ago and they took HRs side even though there were serious errors in process, procedures and the letter declining it.
Thanks, I might get some leads at the pre-retirement course. I had a very good session organised by my employer, however that company don't do consultancy work for individuals, just advise / train corporate clients.That's a pity, but to be honest, I'm not all that surprised. (A medical friend of mine got assistance from the IHCA when applying for PAY and found them both helpful and, more importantly, competent!) Good luck with your search.
Hi Ding DongA further update.
The Department of education will only take an application within 6 months of a "Confirmed" retirement date. The employer in the forms is not the IoT / TU where I have worked for over 20 years, its the department, so when they talk about the employer approval / decisions these rest with the department.
It is a big decision to retire and to be able to confirm it six months out is a big step. The form can of course be submitted closer to retirement but I think it takes at least 3-4 months to process.
The institutions pension department assessed the PAY as 3 years. Thats 19 + (4+2) +3 -25 4 years degree, 2 years masters and 3 years post qualification experience. The form hasn't been sent to the department yet as I have yet to confirm my retirement date.
And then the abatement starts.
I also found out that the supplementary pension amount is calculated by my institutions pension and payroll department and it is recalculated anytime there is a change in the pay of the grade, or the SW / Pension rates.
A further complication is that if your Professional added years post was with another organisation and you transferred in the service, it could be possible to use this as the PAY post. Can happen when a Public Servant transfers into the education sector for example from another public sector area. This would probably give the PAY applicant the choice of the best of first or first permanent in their current organisation and first or first permanent in the PS. This would be interesting as the HR files if a lot of time has passed may no longer exist in the first organisation with the detail required to make a PAY.
Hi stoves1,Thank you Ding Dong
I have sent an email to my pensions section ie "Garda pensions" along with supporting government documentation looking for my Supplementary to be recalculated, On a post here called "Post 1995 Supplementary pension query" there were some helpful people who put up pension links etc, rking regards
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