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Most of the deaths in care homes were due to inappropriate treatments which increased the spread of the virus. That had been rectified now. In April those over 70 made up 20% of infections. That figure is now under 2%. We must base our actions on facts and hard data.Clearly none of them are your friends or family.
I think that with any number you need to understand what that number means irrespective of people’s feelings for Donald Trump which appears to be part of the issue in Ireland in that they people associate their advocacy for lockdown and restrictions as signalling their disapproval for Trump.
I could also ask what do you think of Sweden that had a very soft lockdown but their death rate is only slightly higher than Ireland. Before people jump in and compare Sweden with their neighbours, there are numerous reasons and answers for that also.
Flu | Covid | Flu | Covid | Flu | Covid | |
Hospital | Hospital | ICU | ICU | Deaths | Deaths | |
2014/2015 | 1009 | 69 | 66 | |||
2015/2016 | 1856 | 161 | 85 | |||
2016/2017 | 1425 | 51 | 95 | |||
2017/2018 | 4713 | 191 | 255 | |||
2018/2019 | 3244 | 159 | 97 | |||
2019/2020 | 4332 | 4210 | 154 | 529 | 110 | 1885 |
Below are the figures for seasonal influenza for the past 5 years and for the 2019/2020 season to date.
Many seeking to compare it to a typical flu seem to overlook that completely.
My comment was a response to the apparent callous disregard for the deaths of c.1,800 people. I think we should base our response on protecting lives, but clearly we differ.Most of the deaths in care homes were due to inappropriate treatments which increased spread of the virus. That had been rectified now. In April those over 70 made up 20% of infections. That figure is now under 2%. We must base our actions on facts and hard data.
I also think our response should be based on protecting lives. In that we are as one. I consider all lives to be of equal value so my concern extends beyond the lives of my family and those in this country. In that we seem to differ. My views on lockdowns are in line with those of the World Health Organisation.My comment was a response to the apparent callous disregard for the deaths of c.1,800 people. I think we should base our response on protecting lives, but clearly we differ.
Some of those comparing Covid to flu started off arguing that masks were not useful and then moved on to the "Barrington proposal" of herd immunity - based on questionable sources
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