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FlippedOut

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Morning All,

Have a little problem I could do with some advise over.

In my contract I have 20 days holiday. The contract started 1st September, and in that time I have taken 4 days holiday which were pre planned. I have just been told this morning that one of the days will have to be classed as sick pay (Unpaid) as I have only accumulated leave of 1.6 days per month!! Is this right that you have to accumulate days off before you take them?

I thought it was always a case that say if you left a company and owed them holiday then it would be taken off your last pay check?

Thanks,

Pip
 
FlippedOut said:
I thought it was always a case that say if you left a company and owed them holiday then it would be taken off your last pay check?
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That would be normal.

No one could take a week off until April every year under the rules your company seems to have.
 
Hi jhegarty, Thanks for getting back to me.

I though that would be the case. I've trawled though the [broken link removed] and it now thown up anything on the subject. Any idea where else I could try and look so that I have some ammunition.

Thanks again,
 
Email from management:
Everyone accumulates leave – the same as your salary accumulates – I don’t know why you get so defensive, it is standard practice.

Leave is calculated as 20 days per annum which means this calendar year you will accumulate 6.4 days leave. If you were paid 4 days now you would only have 2.4 days paid over Christmas (assuming you don’t take any other leave).

Any thoughts
 
Is there a mandatory shut-down over Christmas you need to keep holidays for ?
 
Yes, apparently so. Not sure how many though.

Which would means that depending on how many days the office will be closing for Christmas, I could be forced to take it as sick leave as I would not have acumulated enough 'holiday' so then they would be forcing me to take unpaid sick leave. Surely this can not be usual or legal practice?
 
Wow, I have to say shocked that that would be the case. But I guess I least now I know that there is no give and take here. The old swings and roundabouts phrase comes to mind.

Thanks both,
 
Did you notify your employers before you started the job that you were intending to take 4 days leave within a month of starting? Perhaps that's where the swings and roundabouts started?
 
dereko1969 said:
Did you notify your employers before you started the job that you were intending to take 4 days leave within a month of starting? Perhaps that's where the swings and roundabouts started?
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Yes there were two days in September for pre planned wedding, and then one day this month (Friday just gone). I called in yesterday morning and advised that I would not be in as we had delays coming back from the UK with Ferries on Sunday.

I have worked here for nearly a year as a contractor before contact started in September and always give 100% to this start up company and have worked above and beyond the call of duty, so its not as if they do not know me or my work ethics. Which are second to non. I work extremely hard, don't take a full lunch, work late unpaid if needed, etc etc. This to be honest makes me feel some what under valued as a member of the team.
 
elcato said:
Maybe you need to review this .....
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Well, I will now be taking my full entitlement for breaks and lunches and work 'to the book' as this seams to be the way in which they want it to be. And will be looking else where where my work ethic and hard work will be appreciated! Shame as I've brought on some crucial deals in the time I have been here, and have more ready to close before the year is out!

Their loss!
 
FlippedOut said:
Email from management:
Everyone accumulates leave – the same as your salary accumulates – I don’t know why you get so defensive, it is standard practice.
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It might be legal but I don't think it's standard practice - I've never heard of any other company having a policy like this. Surely it means all their staff tend to take holidays together towards the end of the year leaving them short-staffed?
 
markpb said:
.. Surely it means all their staff tend to take holidays together towards the end of the year leaving them short-staffed?
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Why - they may close the facility for annual leave as they do for Christmas?

The other simple and standard solution is that staff schedule leave so there is adequate cover for each individual / department. This is why annual leave is booked in advance in order to plan cover.
 
The company set up is small, and me not being here yesterday had no bearing on any other member of staff, as in there would be no additional work for them. Whilst I was out yesterday I also answered any emails from my clients. So nothing was left outstanding.
 
yes but their policy means that no-one can take any leave in the first month of their contract and in the last month of their year's employment they'll have to take the last days of the contract as leave, which means they'll have needed to stagger their employment, it's all a bit too complicated and nonsensical to me.
I do think the OP is being singled out for something for some reason, doesn't make sense.
 
I've checked with others here who used to work with boss in another company and its the way he worked things there, so its not me being singled out.
 
I'm would object to the day being recorded as sick leave. Unpaid leave fine but not sick leave.
 
They should have informed you of this sick day that they were making you take before you took the day. Did you give them sufficent notice because if you didnt they were not obliged to give you they day and thus putting it down as a sick day. I know if i got inusfficent notice i would do this.
 
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