Really? Which ones are publishing that they are racists?
Really? Which ones are publishing that they are racists?But they do call it policy. Others are describing it as an agenda.
Yeah, I know one in a town north of me just like that as well, had the gym and everything but priced itself out of the local business.Yeah, that gets me too. The small towns that seem to think the taxpayer should subsidise a hotel they hardly ever use is bizarre. There's one such establishment close to me and when you ask the locals if they go there they tell you the food is crap and the boozer across the street is better for a drink.
Absolutely. But how what’s done?Looks like the two Healy-Rae’s are showing the political parties and Micheal Martin how it’s done.
We haven’t and it didn’tIf we had a parliament full of Healy-Rae types the country would implode.
I agree. That's because, thankfully, most people don't vote for independents.We haven’t and it didn’t
My loan independent candidate always supports the government. They don't much care who is in government, they thinks it's in the national interest to support the government, we need stable government, and they also believe it magnifies their own influence.choose to vote for candidates who will legislate in the national interest.
It's not that simple, if you are serving normal tourism and domestic hospitality you have to compete and provide value for money, you need to have your premises looking nice and fresh. That all takes money and effort.The fact that the hotels only took up this business because they couldn't make a go at it in the tourist industry is beside the point.
A formal grouping would also increase their speaking rights in the DailI wonder are they forming a formal grouping to prepare for coalition ? It would seem to be more stable (or have that appearance anyway) - rather than a motley crew of independents with their separate shopping lists in return for supporting FF/FG.
The stability would come from individuals in the group not withdrawing support in a year or two - any withdrawals would be the whole group, so less likely to happen than any solo exiting by disgruntled Independents.
Initially independents were all about their own constituency issues but that is no longer the case, they are basically voicing rural and Conservative issues that have been abandoned by the mainstream parties. Its obvious that the big parties have moved to the centre left ,as mattie mcgrath said I didn't leave fianna fail, fianna fail left me. Also they are vehemently opposed to the green agenda stuff so want to push back against some of that. In other European countries they have Conservative and even hard right parties, we don't have that, the independents are the closest to that we have nowIf we did proper local government here then almost all Independents would be sitting where they belong i.e. in their local government authority.
The lack of empowerment for local authorities is why we end up with Independents in our national parliament.
That explains a chunk of the Aontu vote as well.Initially independents were all about their own constituency issues but that is no longer the case, they are basically voicing rural and Conservative issues that have been abandoned by the mainstream parties. Its obvious that the big parties have moved to the centre left ,as mattie mcgrath said I didn't leave fianna fail, fianna fail left me. Also they are vehemently opposed to the green agenda stuff so want to push back against some of that. In other European countries they have Conservative and even hard right parties, we don't have that, the independents are the closest to that we have now
I vote for a government personally (not an opposition) hence why I would never vote for an Indo and agree with the OP that it's a wasted vote.That explains a chunk of the Aontu vote as well.
In fairness to Michael Healy Rae, he was very impressive when RTE spoke to him at the count centre last weekend, certainly far more so then the likes of mumbling John McGuiness or the Shinners talking "change" to cover up the lost of 120000 votes. "Sophisticated" people think he is a gombeen but he is a successful millionaire business man and I'd have happily given him my number 1 if I lived down there based on how he spoke and the passion he had.
I don't know how FF and FG could be described as anything other than parties of the left. They are socially liberal and have massively increased spending, particularly on welfare, over the last decade. If you are to the left of them they you are heading into Marxist/communist territory.I really don't believe the guff about 'the parties of the left'.
That's hardly an Irish-only phenomenon though is it? Fiscal discipline seems a thing of the past (unless you're Swiss).I don't know how FF and FG could be described as anything other than parties of the left. They are socially liberal and have massively increased spending, particularly on welfare, over the last decade. If you are to the left of them they you are heading into Marxist/communist territory.
Which is why its so frustrating that this is commonly projected as a problem solely connected to immigration. Its clear that there are real viability issues in the hospitality sector that need a proper discussion, and adding this only diffuses the very real problems with the sector (particularly those originating in families/companies/individuals still unravelling high borrowings from tiger era unsuccessful investments).Yeah, I know one in a town north of me just like that as well, had the gym and everything but priced itself out of the local business.
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