Health Insurance 20% shortfall on specified orthopaedic procedures.


It won't make much difference, paying the private fees for an xray and Consultant is the easy part.
The current waiting time for public health joint replacement will prob be years long after the turmoil of Covid.
 
Saavy99 said:
It won't make much difference, paying the private fees for an xray and Consultant is the easy part.
The current waiting time for public health joint replacement will prob be years long after the turmoil of Covid.
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Yes, this was pre-Covid.

The waiting period to see consultant as public patient was > 1 year in the case I looked at.
 
Saavy99 said:
76,000 waiting for surgery in Oct 2020
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Not quite accurate, unless I've misread. The list awaiting surgery is much smaller. The 76k are awaiting an outpatient appointment. Not necessarily surgery.

It's in the article, c 2,600 are awaiting knee or hip replacement surgery.
 
RedOnion said:
Yes, this was pre-Covid.

The waiting period to see consultant as public patient was > 1 year in the case I looked at.
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Notional treatment purchase fund has the waiting times for everything up.
These times are actually mostly not accurate and cannot be trusted.
They have times up for initial appointment...surgery waiting etc.

There are many articles exposing how they manipulate this if one searches but for example it's about a 5/6 year wait online for hip replacement...that's if they are to be believed.

Which they can't be and so one would end up between 8-10 years and they could be dead by then.

What a country.
 
RedOnion said:
Not quite accurate, unless I've misread. The list awaiting surgery is much smaller. The 76k are awaiting an outpatient appointment. Not necessarily surgery.

It's in the article, c 2,600 are awaiting knee or hip replacement surgery.
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Well.....the most likely scenario is they will all need surgery actually.......so in summary

The waiting list figures are a waiting list for to be then put on the waiting list.

The waits in dublin and cork and not as bad as limerick.
Look at the site but remember many have to wait years before their initial appointment......then....their imaging...
Then diagnosis to then...be put on the waiting list for the procedure.

(1-5 years) is the wait for outpatients appointments.

You can also look up the number of surgeons in the country and how often they operate and how long it would take to clear the lists and the answer is years.

So they outsource it. And....delay and manipulate the lists.

In the past if someone waited 3-5 years the ntpf paid for them to be seen privately. Not sure if this happens still
 

Healy rae was criticized by martin in the dail about his cateract bus but he's the only td who has put any incentive into helping people access treatment.

The treatment is available down south but they are rationing it and making the lists longer so people take out insurance.....hence this forum!
 
I can just give you information on the Mater Private. A family member had to pay the 10% shortfall. It cost approximately €300 per night for 2 days stay for 2 admissions for cancer treatment. So a total of around €1200 for 4 nights stay. This was in September 2020.
 
thanks Megan. Just goes to show, these 10%, while appearing a bit inconsequential, are not when you look at your figures.
 
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