I think thats a bit much, calling them stupid. If an employer told me I was getting a pay cut, and that collegues with families weren't, no negotiation, no please and thank you, just like that, I'd tell them to swing for it too. If they did it properly, I would be completely understanding and do everything I could to help.
The loyalty she has shown them is to discriminate on unfair grounds, and fail to follow even basic procedures. Its not a matter of hurt feelings, its about being treated properly and professionally on all sides. And she can be as "peeved" as she likes, she messed it up in the first place.
We have no idea what the full story is on either side, just a general second hand overview by the owners’ friend. None of us are posting based on anything else. What it look like to me is stupidity on both sides.From the info posted, you have no idea why the employees responded in that way, or what they said. We have only the employers friends version, who likely wasn't even there. We do know that the employer doesn't seem to know what she is doing. Its a big leap to call the employees stupid, when the only info available points to the stupidity of the employer.
I agree completely. No consideration what so ever should be given to a person’s personal circumstance when their pay rate is being set. If wages are set by any criteria other than the value of the input that person has it becomes utterly unfair and arbitrary with the whim of the employer rather than the value of the employee determining remuneration.I am single and no offence to anyone with a young family, if I thought the pay cuts were not universal, I would have a complete canary. Single people have bills too, ie, large mortgage on one (cut) income. Her logic in doing this may be the crux of the matter and should be sorted out.
Having good intentions doesn't make you a good boss.
I note from some of the posts that the employer in question was advised to contact IBEC or the SMA.update on this:
Employees refused flat out to take paycut. Friend returned to all employees including the married/family ones and said that paycut would have to be taken across the board i.e everybody gets same paycut. Immediately family guys accepted paycut, singles guys didn't. Friend then let them know that she would have to consider cutting the number of hours they worked per week. All of the employees came in the following day and stated that they would prefer to have the paycut. Paycut going through.
Because they have sense, perhaps ? Bearing in mind the recent 'near miss' at Lufthansa Technik.I note from some of the posts that the employer in question was advised to contact IBEC or the SMA.
I really wonder why workers don't request union representation at times like this.
Because they have sense, perhaps ? Bearing in mind the recent 'near miss' at Lufthansa Technik.
Employees are generally willing to do what needs to be done if given the relevant information. Unions are not, unfortunately, as flexible and would be 'calling on their brethren to show solidarity' etc.etc. leading to strikes and an increased feeling of Us Versus Them rather than Us & Them.
Because they have sense, perhaps ? Bearing in mind the recent 'near miss' at Lufthansa Technik.
Employees are generally willing to do what needs to be done if given the relevant information. Unions are not, unfortunately, as flexible and would be 'calling on their brethren to show solidarity' etc.etc. leading to strikes and an increased feeling of Us Versus Them rather than Us & Them.
discrimination based on Marital status/ family status i think.IIf she makes redundancy selections based on family (or lack thereof) grounds or suchlike, that would invite a pretty clear-cut claim for unfair dismissal/unfair selection.
My reading of the Lufthansa Technick dispute is that the Union on behalf of it's workers faced down Lufthansa on two seperate occassions and negotiated improved terms on behalf of it's members both times.Because they have sense, perhaps ? Bearing in mind the recent 'near miss' at Lufthansa Technik.
Employees are generally willing to do what needs to be done if given the relevant information. Unions are not, unfortunately, as flexible and would be 'calling on their brethren to show solidarity' etc.etc. leading to strikes and an increased feeling of Us Versus Them rather than Us & Them.
The company I work for cut all staff salaries, we all had a meeting and then a letter to state the new salary.
It was not agreed upon though by the staff, we were just told and that was that. BTW there is no union where i work.
Is this illegal by the company?