quotes for a fitted kitchen in a new build: varying 20-28k, does this sound right?

Re: quotes for a fitted kitchen in a new build: varying 20-28k, does this sound right

I'd say absolutely top of the range large kitchens could cost 15K to 20K excluding worktops and appliances. Top of the range means solid hard wood kitchens (usually pine interior carcases) with the odd island, a planter over the island and several other bespoke and hand made features.

Having said that many cabinet makers would be more than prepared to do the same for much less... considering the materials may only cost 2K to 3K maximum where is the money going? A cabinet maker with a workshop and one helper has overheads of maybe 1,500 per week maximum (includes helpers wages, insurance etc)... a kitchen shouldn't take more that 4 to 5 weeks tops (some would do it in two).. this would allow time for all dovetailed drawers, things like fancy larder units, undermounted ceramic sinks, open shelving, island units (all four sides visible so quite complex to make), dressers, hand painted or spray painted finish and several other custom features (like curved breakfast bars for example).

If you are paying more than 25K then you should be getting a fantastic kitchen, i.e curved glass doors with curved drawers, possibly a curved sweeping expanse of cabinets... I have seen fantastic kitchens which would cost 25K plus but these are like you'd see in American mansions, not the usual Irish kitchen. Some English companies at the top of the market charge 50K to 70K sterling but it shows.

Check out furniture.ie for a list of cabinet makers, say to one of them you want a handmade hardwood kicthen and you have been quoted 25K to 45K, watch him beg to be allowed do the same for 18K.

I am a cabinet maker and 18K is a huge amount of money, of course they'd love to do it... as I say they may make 6K to 8K for three to four weeks work.

Only named companies with many staff, huge overheads and fancy jeeps for the sales people would be charging 25K plus.

Amazed
Joe
 
Re: quotes for a fitted kitchen in a new build: varying 20-28k, does this sound right

I would agree with the response above as we sorted our kitchen out last year, initially we went to a few places to get quotes & they were all above 20k, one place said that if your budget wasn't a minimum of 40k then you are wasting your time:)

In the end we sourced a carpenter via a trade fair & he was fantastic, he did our kitchen & utility in walnut, with all the extras & as we were so impressed we got him to do a walk in wardrobe for the missus:) This room was the size of an average bedroom & I would think that his cost was 40% what the average rate would be by going to the aforementioned fancy showrooms.

PM me if you are in the South & would be interested in his number.
 
Re: quotes for a fitted kitchen in a new build: varying 20-28k, does this sound right

Hi, we got our kitchen, fully made to our spec by Delvin Salvage yard, a lovely man named John, real old school if you know what I mean. He came out to our house twice and gave us the suggestions for a better looking kitchen, he evened blocked up a door on us for a better look, anyway, it is a solid wood exterior with a different wood in the interior all wooden worktops, wooden frame for an American fridge, cooker, microwave etc., and a huge island with curved end for table, cabinets plus huge canopy over the range. He then paints it in Farrow & Ball in your chosen colours. The price he quoted us was €21,500 and thats with the belfast sink thrown in also. I thought it was a great price and the quality is excellent.
 
Re: quotes for a fitted kitchen in a new build: varying 20-28k, does this sound right

Hi,

This is a very interesting thread for me at the minute, I've just been to about 8 kitchen places looking for a handpainted kitchen, intergrated fridge, larder unit, pegbourd drawers, Le mans corner units, granite worktop, large undermounted sink, island possibly with a raised part for eating at, mantel over a range and a wine rack, very little glass, no curved doors or drawers, in fact very little fuss at all and I'm getting quotes back between €30k - €40k!!! This includes cheaper units for the Utility I reckon I'd better go and have a look at that website mentioned above!!
 
Re: quotes for a fitted kitchen in a new build: varying 20-28k, does this sound right

something tells me these prices have dropped significantly in the last few months!
 
Re: quotes for a fitted kitchen in a new build: varying 20-28k, does this sound right

That seems like an awful lot to pay for a new kitchen. The prices in Ireland seem so inflated compared to the UK. I have a friend who is an interior designer in the UK and he just can't believe the cost of kitchens over here.

Around 4 months ago we got a number of quotes from various kitchen suppliers in Dublin for plain white gloss doors, stone worktop etc. nothing fancy). Our kitchen is around 13 square metres, so medium sized I suppose. The quotes we got back ranged from €29k to €39k. We couldn't believe it. And it was just for a standard kitchen, nothing flash. We left it a few months and recently approached Nolan Kitchen's in Dublin. We were able to get the same look kitchen at a price of around €11k, however this also included our 3.5m2 utility room. I don't know whether their prices have come down recently or whether they have always cost that much, but it does seem like a much better deal. The kitchens seem like very good qaulity and the staff very good to deal with too. I think you just have to shop around and refuse to pay the ridiculous prices some places over here quote, unless you are getting something very unique and trendy. I really hope the prices start to drop soon given the credit crunch, but who knows!
 
Re: quotes for a fitted kitchen in a new build: varying 20-28k, does this sound right

bamboozle said:
something tells me these prices have dropped significantly in the last few months!
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maybe in some situations but the suppliers of the raw materials have raised their prices
 
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StevenC said:
Hi,

My partner has been getting quotes for a fitted kitchen in a new build and I am amazed at some of the quotes. She would like a cream colour kitchen with an island, larder press, a dresser, belfast sink, a planter over the island, a small utility area and possibly a granite counter top. The quotes we've been getting are varying from 20 to 28k, does this sound right? I cannot understand how a kitchen could cost so much!!
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We have our kitchen in 8 years. Hand made, hand painted cream, granite worktops, larder, 2 x belfast sinks counter etc. The cost......25K at the time. One thing to remember, the thicker/deeper the granite the more expensive. We love our kitchen and so to does anybody who calls.
 
Re: quotes for a fitted kitchen in a new build: varying 20-28k, does this sound right

Kitchens and their cost. Since we got planning I've been studying kitchens. Like all things prices and quality vary.

In our current rental house which we moved into from new the kitchen is very basic. I have to say we're not rough on things and already two of the drawers have had to have remedial work to keep them together. If it were my house I'd have taken an axe to it months ago. So whatever you do - don't compromise quality if at all possible.

Shopping around for kitchen was fun (not) but do shop around. Got a mad price for what I could see was a standard enough kit kitchen. E24k. Nearly cried. No design features I wanted were in corporated - and it looked like every other oak kitchen they installed but quality wise it looked ok.

I know the kitchen I adored from mag advert cost E50k + so didn't even go there.

The Q7 driving guy who described the kitchen that is 27 x 18 ft as tight didn't do us the courtesy of a return call but I have a feeling his ethically sourced solid elm kitchen was possibly a stretch too far budget wise.

Went to a small time guy who doesn't advertise or have glam premises. Mid 20's spend, getting an in frame pippy oak kitchen. (think this revolves around the carcess and it seems to cost more). He is doing gothic window seat, cabinates, island, dresser units, 2 larder units, weird arch to my spec over the rangemaster, utility room. Getting granite worktops in kitchen. I know its alot of money but I'm in this house for the long haul and the kitchen (down to the door handles which we had to source from uk) are as per what I (ahem we picked). My mother who all along has thought I'm half mad when it comes to the house build walked around the kitchen as it is standing in a workshop muttering its some kitchen so that coming from someone born in rationing era England and is quiet frugal is very high praise.

However as budget in house build is shot we were in cash n carry kitchens for our build in wardrobes. Himself muttered with a twinkle in his eye I don't see anything wrong with kitchens here - don't see why we didn't come here.

Another option if money is really tight I've also seen a very ingenous thrifty person buy a kitchen someone was ripping out - horrible mahogony thing; but they got it painted up and it has a wow factor for minimal spend.
 
Re: quotes for a fitted kitchen in a new build: varying 20-28k, does this sound right

Sorry folks but 20-28k for a good quality kitchen is average. My wife works for Houseworks and for those who know them their kitchens which are Seimatic cost in excess of 75k. They do produce a cheaper option again from Seimatic but it depends on waht you want.
If you are on a budget of 10-15k stay away from the likes of Cash And Carry, Budget and the likes in that bracket.
When you chose a supplier make sure He is involved someway in te installation any supplier who does not walk away before you regret it. If you are spending goods money it's nice to know that the fitter is familar with the product as this could also add to your problem.
There is a new Kitchen showroom opened in Blanchardstown called Kitchenwise. This guy designs, makes and installs the whole package. They have a website called Kitchenwise.ie and he assures Me that all of the kitchens on view are his designs and installations. I do know the chap but I also know good workmanship when I see it. Martin is the name of the guy tell him Gerry recommended him and I sure he'll give a good price. I would not recommend him if you have less than 5k. I hope this is of help.
 
Re: quotes for a fitted kitchen in a new build: varying 20-28k, does this sound right

wow .... and to think I got a full, solid oak kitchen installed 10 years ago for £6,000 ... and I thought it expensive at the time! (That included utility)
 
Re: quotes for a fitted kitchen in a new build: varying 20-28k, does this sound right

Hi,
I can not understand people getting quotes for 30k in our current climate. I got my kitchen in the "boom" period and did not pay close to that. I got a painted kitchen which was classed as an expensive kitchen as kitchens go, for 14k. It has thick solid wood worktops the doors are inframe with the hinges showing and a big chimney breast effect. A friend of mine got a painted kitchen a month ago from the same company which is a bigger than mine for 17k.
I was in with them yesterday looking for wardrobes for a spare room and they said they are booked out until the end of jan, surprise surprise! Price around, you can get lower prices than this without compromising on quality.
 
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Emerb said:
Hi,
I can not understand people getting quotes for 30k in our current climate. I got my kitchen in the "boom" period and did not pay close to that. I got a painted kitchen which was classed as an expensive kitchen as kitchens go, for 14k. It has thick solid wood worktops the doors are inframe with the hinges showing and a big chimney breast effect. A friend of mine got a painted kitchen a month ago from the same company which is a bigger than mine for 17k.
I was in with them yesterday looking for wardrobes for a spare room and they said they are booked out until the end of jan, surprise surprise! Price around, you can get lower prices than this without compromising on quality.
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Emerb the reason why people spend 30k and beyond is quality. The fact that We have a down turn in the market place does not mean that I will get a Porsche 911 for 10k if I shop around. While I'm sure that both your kitchen and your friends kitchen is beautiful the price you paid would not afford you one of the expensive brand names, in some cases 17k would not even buy you the shell of the kitchen. Most of the high end showrooms have exclusive rights to some of the top end products and no matter were you go to or however long you shop for you will never get these products unless you pay the price. I think you'll find you do get what you pay for.
 
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just because you pay 30K plus dosen't give you anything...you have more of a chance of being ripped off at this price range than in the 10-20K market. I find it funny that you can say quality costs 75K plus, in germany the same quality comes at half the cost and less so lets stop pretending and stop trying to defend ridiculous prices from a flat pack company like seimatic, there are a glorified Cash & Carry operation for the foolish rich who have no sense of style but just want to brag to there mates that this cost 75K....it has nothing to do with quality mate just snobbery and who has more money
 
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I agree entirely.I have a large kitchen and the units were supplied by a local joiner.€12,500 including units ( solid red cherry) and granite work top.The joiner buys the doors directly from supplier and the basic shell is normally your bog standard conti board or equivalent.
€75,000 for a kitchen you would want your head read.
 
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johnnyg said:
just because you pay 30K plus dosen't give you anything...you have more of a chance of being ripped off at this price range than in the 10-20K market. I find it funny that you can say quality costs 75K plus, in germany the same quality comes at half the cost and less so lets stop pretending and stop trying to defend ridiculous prices from a flat pack company like seimatic, there are a glorified Cash & Carry operation for the foolish rich who have no sense of style but just want to brag to there mates that this cost 75K....it has nothing to do with quality mate just snobbery and who has more money
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So from your post I can take it that you would rather a Sokda to a VW or for that matter a VW over a BMW. Get real lads while I don't agree with the prices if you have the money and you want better go for it. In every walk of life companies sell similar products with hugh price differences this is because of quality.
 
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O'Fla said:
Emerb the reason why people spend 30k and beyond is quality. The fact that We have a down turn in the market place does not mean that I will get a Porsche 911 for 10k if I shop around. While I'm sure that both your kitchen and your friends kitchen is beautiful the price you paid would not afford you one of the expensive brand names, in some cases 17k would not even buy you the shell of the kitchen. Most of the high end showrooms have exclusive rights to some of the top end products and no matter were you go to or however long you shop for you will never get these products unless you pay the price. I think you'll find you do get what you pay for.
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I still do not agree. The companies you refere to have up to 20k profits on their kitchens. I agree that their kitchens are different and are of good quality but I could not justify paying those prices when I think I can get what I want for half the price or less. The only difference I can see is that my kitchen does not have a "Brand Name" as you say yourself.
I have uploaded my kitchen to a photo album so you can see for yourself the value I got.
http://photobucket.com/Emer_2008
I could not have get this style kitchen in any showroom you refere to.
 
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Very nice!
 
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EmerB, that is one gorgeous kitchen. Would you mind sending me the name of the company you used by pm (if you don't want to post the name here). It's exactly what I'm looking for.
 
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"I think you'll find you do get what you pay for."
I think 0'FLA is correct buy one of the Seimatic Kitchens and you pay for The flash showrooms/the fancy adverts/the costly PR/The company cars (should be PORSCHE) to keep up appearances/the beautiful catalogues/the major margin needed to keep everyone in style
And they supply you with a fairly average kitchen with whats left
 
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