Re: For sale signs in car windows.

Forget the law...what about common sense?
If these sun blinds cause an obstruction you're endangering yourself and others which is outrageous.

If that were the case, commercial versions of cars with no rear (side) windows would be banned.

Clearly, there's no argument against putting a notice in the rear passenger window on safety grounds.
 
You need your rear side windows to check your blindspots, when moving off, changing lanes etc.

I know that vans have no side rear windows; that is why the insurance is higher than a car; higher risk = higher premium.
 
I note the earlier comments about these signs meaning a "willingness to race"...I however heard that it is a subtle way of advertising yourself as someone who might be able to supply illegal narcotics.....!!
 
ah it gets better and better !

Its obviously gone to the stage where you cant advertise your car for sale without being accused of selling drugs or wanting to race the next young driver that pulls up beside me...
 
Yep...I guess so Ronan ! The other mad thing I heard recently was if you see a pair of runners hanging out of electricity or phone lines it's outside a pushers house....So whatever you do don't go throwing your runners around as well !!
 
You need your rear side windows to check your blindspots, when moving off, changing lanes etc.

I know that vans have no side rear windows; that is why the insurance is higher than a car; higher risk = higher premium.

I think higher premiums (which are based entirely on claims records, not perceived or real risk) are more to do with the way most commercial vehicles are driven....

About the only time you really miss rear windows is in reversing round corners: you don't need them for either moving off or changing lanes: that's what your mirrors are for.
 
ah it gets better and better !

Its obviously gone to the stage where you cant advertise your car for sale without being accused of selling drugs or wanting to race the next young driver that pulls up beside me...

Exactly! This is ridiculous! Does the state have the right to stop you from selling your car privately? Does the state have the right to force you to sell your car through print and web advertising or only through car dealership?

I can understand that such signs may arise some suspicion but it's the gardai's job to find out if you're really selling your car or drugs or are you trying to meet new boy-racer pals. In my mind (as I am not familiar with the law) it's ok as long as the advertisement is not obstructing the viewand hence putting the driver and the passengers in danger.
 
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1993/en/act/pub/0014/sec0071.html

Roads Act 1993
71.—(1) ( a ) Any person who, without lawful authority or the consent of a road authority—

(i) erects, places or retains a sign on a public road, or

(ii) erects, places or retains on a public road any caravan, vehicle or other structure or thing (whether on wheels or not) used for the purposes of advertising, the sale of goods, the provision of services or other similar purpose, shall be guilty of an offence.

Thanks boaber I wasnt aware of that law.
 
(ii) erects, places or retains on a public road any caravan, vehicle or other structure or thing (whether on wheels or not)

I may be splitting hairs here but:
I don't think that driving along a road can be defined as erecting, placing or retaining on a public road... (With the exception of the M50 where vehicles are 'retained' all too regularily!:p )


used for the purposes of advertising, the sale of goods, the provision of services or other similar purpose, shall be guilty of an offence.

What about all those Dublin Bus buses who are, at present, advertising the Christmas Panto Jack and the Beanstalk and anything else for anyone who will pay...

What about all the taxis with advertisements on the roof signs...

What about Garda vehicles advertising the provision of services of the confidential phone lines...

It may be that that particular piece of legislation could be interpreted that way but I don't think that that was the intention...

I do think that the Garda must have been having a bad day, did misinterpret the intention of the 'for sale' signs, did not display much in the way of interpersonal skills and did overreact.

 
that law seems to relate to static items parked solely for advertising purposes. i cant see how it could be applied to someone driving around with a for sale sign in their window. legally how are those signs different from the advertising carried by 99.9% of commercial vehicles and written on the sides , back windows of many private cars.
if a guard told me to take a for sale sign from my car , i would politely tell him to **** *** and catch some criminals. the reality is that this would probably be unlikely to happen as i dont drive a civic/impreza or wear a baseball cap.
 
You need your rear side windows to check your blindspots, when moving off, changing lanes etc.

I know that vans have no side rear windows; that is why the insurance is higher than a car; higher risk = higher premium.

that is completely wrong. i have a transit with no side/rear windows and shock/horror no rearview mirror . the ins co deems it to be so dangerous and undriveable that they charge me a whopping 50% LESS than i pay for my smaller engined car.
 
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