Perhaps we could have tried this at Level 2?
Gardaí are to be given new powers which will allow them call to homes and order that house parties are broken up.
Do we expect the local garda who told wet pubs in Cavan there'd be no checks carried out on the day of the county final to start enforcing these restrictions?
As of today there are 315 Covid patients in hospital. In the first week of January 2018 alone, 535 patients were admitted with flu. Worth keeping in mind to put a bit of perspective on things.
Isn't a lot of the talk and the problem here that we simply aren't being told what the sources of the clusters are and where exactly they're happening? I think the drip drip of information and anecdotes from NPHET is an insult. They should publish detailed data on where cases are happening and no, there's been no real enforcement apart from telling otherwise law-abiding people to turn around to shop in a supermarket nearer where they live in April. Are house parties a real source of infection? Why isn't there a fine for not self-isolating while waiting for the result of a test? A member of the guards didn't do this in last few days! A person in the train of infection in the story of the holiday going super-spreader infected people while she was waiting for a test result.... fines for these people?
Yes, that’s a good point re stigmatisation of people going for tests. At the end of the day it’s all pretty hopeless in terms of trying to control the everyday behaviour of people. My issue is with lack of in depth data about numbers in certain areas. The cso website has more insight than the Hse one. I think we should be privy to all the data because our lives have been so profoundly disrupted by this. This lockdown is so that we can have an Xmas.... there is no plan for enhanced test and trace after this that I know of. The numbers will come down to semi manageable levels in terms of test and trace and then what?I've had similar thoughts myself, but then, if you picked it up at a house party \ not isolating after hols, would you disclose this in your close contact interview?
So I think any data they have on clusters is likely to be incomplete.
This lockdown seems to be a blanket approach of reducing people's list of close contacts, the R number in a general sense rather than in any specific way targeted at sources of clusters.
And then, would fines for not isolating after a test be a deterrent to people coming forward \ getting tested?
What if Paddy says that Jimmy (a neighbour he doesn't like) was a close contact, but was nowhere near him?
He then has to go for a test and isolate until clear...
As noted earlier in thread, we have serious issue with enforcement in this country, not just of covid but in general.
If you can't consider hurling and Gaelic Football at inter county level to be an elite sport. Then how can you call our rowers, swimmers, athletes, soccer players, hockey players, gymnasts elite?
By the way under age training in all sports can continue within certain conditions.
You're so fond of this that you're posting on multiple threads. This is the "no worse than the flu" nonsense.
From that report - total number of cases = 11,889 of which 4,713 were hospitalised. Current tracker for Covid here is over 50k cases (don't have the cummaltive total of hospitalisations). You pick one week which was worse and compare with current number as opposed to picking the high point of hospitalisations here.
What's next - that it's all a conspiracy to get us to wear masks and be implanted with chips
We also weren't testing 100k people per week for the flu in Jan 2018, if we were I expect the number of "cases" of the flu would have been significantly higher. Why can't people make the simple deduction that the more tests you have the more positive tests you will have - tests which are being taken due to an increased effort to make people to take a test.
We don't make that deduction because our positivity rate is changing also.
In July we had days with positivity rate of 0.3%.
Our positivity rate of late has been above 5%.
The real metric is the death rate. The simple reality is that very few people are dying as a result of this virus.
Positivity rate, IFR, R rate, Cases, flatten the curve, don't overwhelm the hospitals - the narrative around the metrics of Covid are constantly changing.
The real metric is the death rate. The simple reality is that very few people are dying as a result of this virus.
I note there is some confusion regarding what is/isn't an elite sport where even we on the forum can't agree. Therefore, is it time to stop all sporting activities for at least 6 weeks?I don't consider inter county anything as elite sport. Irish counties are tiny. I consider competing at an international level as being elite.