NZ Herald Piece on the Milky Bar Kids

It's a bit rich for someone who supports the most cynical and dirtiest team in the world to criticise England, or anyone else for that matter.
When they and their media apologise for trying to kill Brian O'Driscoll they can give out about other teams. Until then they should shut up.
An English friend lamented that Dylan Hartley was an utter knacker but still wasn't enough of a scumbag to get into the All Blacks. He wasn't wrong.
 
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It's a bit rich for someone who supports the most cynical and dirtiest team in the world to criticise England, or anyone else for that matter.
When they and their media apologise for trying to kill Brian O'Driscoll they can give out about other teams. Until then they should shut up.
An English friend lamented that Dylan Hartley was an utter knacker but still wasn't enough of a scumbag to get into the All Blacks. He wasn't wrong.
And that ritual they do before matches should be outlawed as incitement to hatred and violence:rolleyes:
 
Rugby fans criticising violent play is like women wanting to be priests. Somehow they just don't get it !
 
Rugby fans criticising violent play
It's a physical contact sport, violence in rugby should be condemned by everyone who loves and understands the game. Oh and the Anglicans have had women priests and women bishops for some years now. Sorry you missed that.
 
Golf is a physical contact sport. Rugby is a sport where violence is tolerated even encouraged, see Dylan Hartley comments above, thats fine i have no problem with that. I wouldn't like to play it myself or see my kids playing it, but different strokes for different folks. What bugs me is the hypocritical tut tutting from people who want their fix of violence but wont admit it.

As for women priests, Anglican or otherwise, well there used to be a thread here asking why any woman would join FF. There are women who like to support hierarchical power bases based on superstition, and like to delude themselves that they are doing something different. Funnily enough I would be more sympathetic to them than the "no violence please its rugby" crowd.
 
Golf is a physical contact sport. Rugby is a sport where violence is tolerated even encouraged, see Dylan Hartley comments above, thats fine i have no problem with that. I wouldn't like to play it myself or see my kids playing it, but different strokes for different folks. What bugs me is the hypocritical tut tutting from people who want their fix of violence but wont admit it.
How on earth is golf a Physical contact sport? It’s a bit of a stretch to call golf a sport at all. It’s a game, like snooker. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t require skill, just like snooker (I play snooker and I’m rubbish at it so I know it requires skill).

When a sport has physical contact, like rugby or football or soccer, it is more important that the rules are followed.



As for women priests, Anglican or otherwise, well there used to be a thread here asking why any woman would join FF. There are women who like to support hierarchical power bases based on superstition, and like to delude themselves that they are doing something different. Funnily enough I would be more sympathetic to them than the "no violence please its rugby" crowd.
That’s a strange analogy.


I never played rugby but I like to watch it and one of my son played it. It is very inclusive as a sport; every kid gets a game. It teaches respect of other players and respect for the referees and the rules. It is a far better example for kids than watching soccer players diving and whining and being disrespectful to the referee. The risks inherent in playing sport (as opposed to games where you drive around in an electric cart) are far outweighed by the health benefits of being active.
 
[QUOTE="cremeegg, post: 1510490, member: 55994"I wouldn't like to play it myself or see my kids playing it[/QUOTE]

My son plays rugby and his and his team (under 7s) are in the enviable position of having Yours Truly coaching :rolleyes:. Based on what I've heard from older boys' matches it is highly unlikely he will be playing rugby after he is 12, unless something changes drastically...it's just too physical now and the injuries too bad. I get the same feedback from parents also. Along with American Football, the target for defenders is most often the attacking player rather than trying to get the ball. I'm not sure what the solution is as though rugby union in it's current form is just so good to watch!
 
Some contributors here surprise me . . . . of course there are no rules in rugby . . . . . there are laws (not rules) . . . .have you never listened to Nigel (that's the referee) explaining to some dopey international players "it's not in the law . . ."

. . . and I'm a GAA man!
 
I was playing in the club matchplay last year - 2 down 5 to play. Really up against it - time running out. Then I really upped the physicality - won handily enough in the end - 2&1.

On a serious note, I played a bit of rugby back in the day when it was fun - still like watching it - just wouldn't encourage anyone to play it these days.
 
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