Social Welfare Abuse

Discussion in 'Welfare and state benefits' started by ChrisKelly, Dec 18, 2016.

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  1. ChrisKelly

    ChrisKelly New Member

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    I'm aware of a person who has been working cash in hand for several years whilst claiming Job Seekers. He was moved to Back to Work allowance, which gets paid directly into his bank account and for the past 2 years has worked abroad earning nearly €4K a month. He is back and forth every couple of weeks.

    He has opened a separate bank account that social welfare are not aware of, so he can get away with this at the moment.

    He is also just in the process of claiming rent allowance to, even though he shouldn't. To add insult to injury, he is renting out a room in the house and current tenant paying more than half the rent. Obviously social welfare are not aware of this at all.

    This is clearly abusing a system meant to help people in dire straights. I have no issue with people who deserve social welfare, or even people doing the odd nixer to get buy. This guy is taking it to a whole new level.

    So many different welfare frauds are being committed here?

    Working and claiming.
    Falsified documents.
    Subletting a room and claiming full rent allowance.

    Who do I report this to?
     
  2. moneybox

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  3. Monbretia

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    Be sure of your facts, the back to work allowance is gone since 2012. Anyway social welfare should investigate if you report.
     
  4. noproblem

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    With that information you seem to know the person awfully well indeed. What will happen if you have to reveal who you are, is that a problem for you?
     
  5. moneybox

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    Is it not anonymous?
     
  6. noproblem

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    These things, like confidential goverment documents and the likes, have a way of revealing themselves.
     
  7. twofor1

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    But they make it very clear that they accept reports of suspected fraud anonymously.

    If the Department of Social Protection don’t know who reported the suspected fraud, the only thing that could ever be revealed like confidential government documents and the like, is it was an anonymous report.
     
  8. galwaypat

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    OP seems to be fairly sure fraud is been committed so should report this. social protection is there for people that really need it
     
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  9. moneybox

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    Dont social protection monitor people who are flying in and out of the country while on social welfare?
     
  10. jim

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    This is a silly statement and is going off topic. Its either anonymous or it isn't. The OP has a straight forward question and the answer is straight forward - this should be reported immediately and let the powers that be investigate. Moneybox posted the link above.
     
  11. fun

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    Perhaps you should change your username OP incase he logs on here! He should be reported in any case.
     
  12. Bronte

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    How on earth would they be able to do that?
     
  13. Bronte

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    This bit I don't understand. How is he renting a room to a tenant? Whose room is it?
     
  14. T McGibney

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    Be sure of your facts, it's not gone.
     
  15. thedaddyman

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    They are starting to use a lot more data analytics to catch fraudsters. For example Facial Recognition software is now quite common and the Dept of Social Protection have admitted in the past that they trawl social media such as Facebook as part of any investigation into an allegation. I'm not sure if they are proactively investigating though or simply responding to an allegation.
     
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  18. Gerry Canning

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    Chris,
    On what you report , this boyo is a real beaut !

    I hope you have reported him by now.
     
  19. The Edge

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    Does the social welfare monitor massively wealthy international money launderers that regularly fly in to our airports?

    I'm just curious.

    I seek merely information.
     
  20. allencat3

    allencat3 Registered User

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    Minister Leo Vardarer, wake up! why reduce minimum of rent to €10 per week by those on social welfare for social housing, while those paying PRSI contributions for past 45 years and paying mortgage for over 20 years and paying taxes and water charges etc and simultaneously having dual sensory disabilities since birth yet just retired on ill-health grounds receive €45 per week with two years yet to go before receiving state contributory pension? What's the point of working for 45 years and paying taxes and PRSI contribs while some youngsters on social welfare spend their sw money on cigarettes and smartphones with Free travel passes on lanyards around their necks whom I observed getting onto buses while paying my bus fare home using my Lesp card costing me €153 per month?
     
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